r/GameDeals May 03 '22 Silver 1 [deleted] 1

[Humble Choice] Planet Zoo, SpongeBob SquarePants: Battle for Bikini Bottom - Rehydrated, Command & Conquer Remastered Collection, Spellcaster University, Surviving the Aftermath, If Found..., Genesis Noir, Embr ($12 for all games) Expired

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u/dougmc May 03 '22

Interesting -- I don't recall Humble doing this before for their Monthy/Choice games :

This EA title [C&C Remastered] is redeemable on Origin and subject to EA terms and user agreements.
Must be redeemed by June 7th, 2023 at 10 AM Pacific Time.

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u/Shadowlette May 03 '22

The Blizzard games have done this, probably other Origin games too.

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u/dougmc May 03 '22

Ahh, good point ... I do remember Blizzard doing this for Overwatch.

And we do have a year to think about it, so that's not too bad.

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u/moipaslui May 04 '22

It's always this way with Origin game codes, it's the same when there are gieveways of Origin games with the Amazon Prime subscription.

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u/Godeye1349 May 03 '22

I love how the description for C&C remastered has a selling point for the steam version.

Mod Support — Create, share, and play mods with the Steam Workshop.

When can origin die and just merge with steam like Bethesda did?

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u/wjousts May 03 '22

It does seem like straight up trolling in the description:

The Steam version includes:

And you get none of it, because this isn't the Steam version.

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u/asianflipboy May 03 '22

Yikes. Feels like the beginning of the end for me. Quality has always been iffy despite quantity going down on the promise it would get better, but I've been sated with bundles for a while if only because I like collecting games... On Steam. Plus the 20% discount is nice every once in a while, though even that got changed for the worst.

If I'm forced to build yet another collection on another platform... No thanks. There's only oh so much I'm willing to deal with. Part of me feels like they'll start peddling Epic keys next with no choice for Steam keys, and that'll push me overboard...

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u/Pandenstew May 03 '22

Wait what happened to the 20% discount? I thought all that changed was that you just needed a streak of months for that to be active?

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u/Takazura May 03 '22

They are probably referring to exactly that. You need to have gotten a choice several months in a row to get the 20% and if you pause even just once, it's down to 10% whenever you do get the next Choice that you have to build up again. I believe it was always a flat 20% off before the change, so it's definitely a much worse deal now.

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u/SoapyMacNCheese May 03 '22

several months in a row to get the 20%

It's actually a full year to get 20%.

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u/LesbianCommander May 03 '22

https://support.humblebundle.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026249173-Humble-Choice-Perk-Growing-Store-Discount

You need to be subbed for consecutive months.

1-2 months is 10%

3-5 months is 15%

6-11 months is 17%

12+ months is 20%

Based on the quality of the bundles, I can't imagine wanting to do 12 months in a row.

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u/caninehere May 03 '22

The beginning of the end was when they brought Humble Choice in in the first place, like 3 years ago. It had a few really good months to start and draw people in and then took a nosedive.

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u/Everyoneisghosts May 03 '22

The origin key for C&C was the deciding factor for avoiding this month. It's not like I absolutely must have everything on Steam. But I just hate origin so much.

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u/FUTURE10S May 03 '22

I personally like Origin, but if you're advertising Steam features, then give people a Steam key. Come on, Humble, not that hard.

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u/Godeye1349 May 03 '22

Yeah, I have plenty of games on origin I never touch simply because I never launch origin. It only gets used because I play EA games on steam sometimes lol. Pretty much any other launcher is the same for me. Scott Pilgrim on uplay was the only exception. Sure, I could add them to steam but I just don't care enough.

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u/ModPiracy_Fantoski May 03 '22

Itch, GOG and Steam. They're the three Great. Amazon games is okay. Origin/Bethesda/Rockstar is... I mean, I redeem the Origin key. No need to worry about Bethesda now. But Rockstar literally won't run on my computer for some reason so I have game keys I haven't been able to claim, they're this garbage.

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u/Timobkg May 05 '22

Steam is great in many ways, but its family sharing is garbage. GOG, Itch, Microsoft, and even Epic (and also Sony, Microsoft, Google, and Apple, if you include consoles and mobile devices) are way better and more family friendly in that regard.

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u/DeliciousIncident May 04 '22

Epic Games?

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u/Timobkg May 05 '22

Their launcher is okay. I think the way it displays your library as individual pages is dumb, and switching pages takes way too long.

But on the bright side, it's way more family friendly than Steam - many (most?) of the games are DRM-free, even ones that have DRM on Steam, and you can share one library across your home computers without it being limited to only one person using it at a time. Steam family sharing is such garbage - even aside from it locking you out of your complete library, you can have two libraries shared on a PC, each with a license for the game, but if the first library you shared is in use it just locks the game out rather than using the available license from the second library. Steam is one of the least family friendly clients.

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u/ModPiracy_Fantoski May 04 '22

I have zero experience with Epic, so I can't really tell.

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u/d0m1n4t0r May 03 '22

Oh wow, didn't even notice. Yeah that's an easy decision then, just like with Mass Effect.

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u/MTADO May 03 '22

Wait can you not mod the non steam games? Or are we talking workshop mods? Also can i download a workshop mod and manually add it to a non steam game?

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u/Poketrainer132 May 03 '22

It sure doesn't tickle my pickle. Really not digging all the Origin games lately. But hey still, if you wanted Planet Zoo, Spellcaster, or Aftermath then why not.

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u/Jawaka99 May 03 '22 Silver

Wow... so glad they're giving us less games in order to make the remaining of better quality.

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u/TuEsene May 03 '22

I really dislike when the headline is only the base game and the game itself has a ton of DLCs. I feel like it is a really scummy move from Humble and the publishers.

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u/EZPEEZEE May 03 '22

They always do this, games about to get a new DLC? Put it in humble bundle.

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u/DystopiaCS May 03 '22

Planet Zoo should have been the Ultimate edition, I would have bought it. Base game only with all those other junk filler games, not interested. I don't want to wait for a sale and have to pay an extra $25-50 in DLC to experience the full game. Wetlands animal pack is regular price CAD$11.50 for 1 new scenario and 8 new animals, and there's 10 other DLC like that. Paying over $1 per extra animal in DLC, how tf did shit like this become normal?

If they're going to ship the base game as the headline game, then they need better filler games in the bundle. I think most people buying this months bundle are going to be people who forgot to cancel.

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u/timmyboyoyo May 03 '22

The months before were better and before that were more better

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u/tacitus59 May 03 '22

I especially dislike companies who put their base game in bundles, but they don't even have a complete-your-collection version on steam. In this case had it been at least the Premium edition I MIGHT have bitten. Nothing really appeals to me.

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u/EpsilonRose May 05 '22

Im still salty about Control, where they had to create a new base edition for the bundle.

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u/tacitus59 May 05 '22 edited May 05 '22

Absolutely ... but to be fair but for that cluster, everyone involved including steam, needs to be slapped.

[edit: why steam? Because steam currently allows 505 to use the same application page/download for 2 different games - original control (with or without the DLC) and the proper ultimate edition. Even if you own the DLC, you would have to remove it from your account and rebuy the ulitimate edition to get the ulitmate edition.]

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u/ClownCarnival May 03 '22

I was actually looking at Planet Zoo a couple weeks ago and I saw some review that said there's a forced multiplayer feature to get new animals and since no one plays it anymore it's really hard to unlock them and that really put me off. Is it really that bad?

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u/Dramatic_Reddit_user May 03 '22

Multiplayer is a mode in of itself. You can easily play singleplayer, without having to do any multiplayer. I've never touched any multiplayer features and it is not required in the slightest. Never been forced to do anything multiplayer focused.

The online multiplayer seems fine when I've looked from the sideline. Everything takes a little longer with a multiplayer economy. But I don't see anyone complaining about it on the forums. AND Frontier gives out animals themselves on the auction, so every animal is avaliable on the market. So no its not that bad. It is actually really popular in the community.

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u/BoshSwag May 03 '22 edited May 03 '22

When I played you could choose between an online mode where you're buying/selling animals with real players or offline mode where it just generates animals in the market. I played offline, because even when it was new, multiplayer sounded like a shit show.

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u/whopsh May 03 '22

No it's not that bad, I've always found the online stuff to be pretty active. But you can also just play offline and it doesn't feel like you're missing anything

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u/timmyboyoyo May 03 '22

If you want unlock animals yes

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u/Whackem_Phoenix May 03 '22

Oof that's some Elephant turd level shit right there thanks for the info...

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u/whopsh May 03 '22

It's not really true, the only online aspect is the animal market. The market always has plenty of animals and is active in my experience. Frontier puts out their own animals in the market as well so you don't necessarily have to buy from other players. Plus if the market ever does die you can always choose to play offline or sandbox

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u/MisterHandagote May 03 '22

Planet Zoo should have been the Ultimate edition, I would have bought it

This seems a little unrealistic given that the ultimate edition is £99.

Planet Zoo is a bit like The Sims 4 in that you don't really need all the DLC to enjoy the game, it's more about picking and choosing. If you particularly love penguins, you might grab the Aquatic Pack, for example.

I don't necessarily say this to defend the game, only to say that I think we are past the idea of needing every piece of every DLC for a game to experience the "full game", a lot of games don't really follow that model anymore

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u/DystopiaCS May 03 '22

The ultimate edition is overpriced and meant to be sold on a sale, so pointing to an inflated price tag of a few years old game doesn't have merit for why we can't have ultimate editions in bundles. Again, they're selling DLC of new animals at over $1 per animal regular price, that is not fair pricing by any measure. Why do I have to pay for a zoo game and only get a select few animals and have to pay extra for more animals? It's greedy and stupid.

Maybe you and the game developers are past the idea of needing all DLC, but to me and most people, not having all the DLC = not having a full game, because that's just the facts. When I'm missing Content in a game (that's what the C means in DLC if you didn't know), I'm missing the full game. You can say you're fine without having the full game, but buying a base game with no DLC is not having and experiencing the full game.

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u/Catboxaoi May 03 '22 edited May 03 '22

Why do I have to pay for a zoo game and only get a select few animals

You don't. Wikipedia says 74 species are available in the base game of Planet Zoo, and it might be a bit higher due to free updates the game had over time. Compare that to Zoo Tycoon 2 base game, the classic game most people would point at, which had 30 animals. If you include all of the DLCs from Zoo Tycoon 2, it reached 81 creature types.

This idea that you're getting "a select few animals" is nonsense, you're getting tons of them. it's irrational, if you're actually looking at the content in the game it is nowhere near light, on top of having far more variety than past zoo sims it obviously is much more in depth when it comes to AI and overall quality. Them adding more DLC over years of time does not make the game they originally released stop being a game by itself.

Obviously it would be better to get more, but for a bundle that you can get for $8/$12, 1 of 8 games being Planet Zoo is already a pretty damn good deal. You're complaining about optional extra content, but if the exact same base game had no DLC you'd gladly love it without ever thinking it was not a real full game.

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u/Cutmerock May 03 '22

I feel like this was done on purpose to entice people into buying the DLC since you got the game "cheap"

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u/saul2015 May 03 '22

thats how they make money

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u/overlordpotatoe May 04 '22

I think for the price you're paying, you can't expect much more. That's barely more than the base game is when it's on sale and you get other games as well.

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u/Fraywind May 03 '22

But wait! What if I include this 50% off full price DLC coupon just to rub it in your face!

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u/shellwe May 03 '22

Like... its $12 for 8 games... each game averages $1.50 in this bundle. Even if you only care about half the games that's still $3 per game and you are upset that it doesn't include all the DLCs too?

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u/overlordpotatoe May 04 '22

I agree. Someone else was saying it should be the Ultimate Edition which on its own, on the deepest sale it's ever been on, would be worth over three times what the bundle costs. It's just unrealistic. It's a good deal if you want at least a couple of games that are in the bundle and a bad one if you don't. Simple as that.

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u/shellwe May 04 '22

Exactly this, I honestly miss humble monthly where it was a headline game and then a bunch of mystery games. It was pretty well known that "here is what you are paying for, any mystery games are just icing on the cake!"

I get if it was some game that's been $10 several times so you feel it's not a great deal even with all the other games, but to expect to get 7 games along with a game that was never less than 30 for the complete bundle is bonkers.

I swear you could have choosy beggar material off comments on these humble choice posts for weeks. I am just glad that they finally upped their quality; it was a painful 2 years after choice started.

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u/matheod May 03 '22

They should offer people who already own it to get dlc instead.

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u/-the-goddamn-batman- May 03 '22

At this point I should just cancel instead of pausing every month

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u/chrispy145 May 03 '22

Cancel. They'll keep sending you emails to come back for $6 for that month. Have gotten that email the last 3 months.

Still... hasn't been worth it yet.

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u/broccoli_meister May 03 '22

So like the classic plan benefits are completely dead, right? No grandfathered in benefits from pre-choice times?

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u/LuluChi May 04 '22

Yes, they "remodeled" everything to the 12$ tier.

Only royalty benefit was keeping the old 20% discount which is reduced to 10% immediately after you pause a month.

One strategy is to keep pausing to jump on a bundle with the 4$ discount. But it seems if you cancel altogether they'll beg you to come back with 6$ off.

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u/iWizardB May 04 '22

They've replaced the $6 one to $8 one in last two months for me.

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u/Ryuuga_Hideki1988 May 03 '22

The only reason I’ve continued abusing pausing (stupid auto correct) instead of canceling is because I want to hang onto my Classic status just in case they decide to add benefits to it in the future. I can’t shake the feeling that they must have some reason to have kept that tier instead of simply rolling everyone into the same category. (Unless it’s just half-assed website programming, which I’ll admit is just as likely.)

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u/thilinac May 03 '22

When pausing today also I got the 4 bucks off offer if I don't pause, that is there I guess.

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u/BaronVonBacon1 May 03 '22

If you cancel, you will receive a better discount in your mail box. It usually take 2 weeks. It was 6 or 8 $ for the previous bundle

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u/thilinac May 03 '22

so the discount will be for the bundle I canceled if I resub using the link in email?

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u/iBobaFett May 03 '22

I really want to with a month like this, but I use the 20% discount pretty often and they changed it a few months back so if I pause I'll lose it unless I sub for 12 months consecutively. :/

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u/Tairgire May 03 '22

I made the hard decision to do this month before last and it's sort of freeing. Now I'm okay with skipping this month again, because there's no discount built up. What they _should_ have done is to kick the discount back a stage if you skip, not drop it entirely. Now that I gave it up once, it's no big deal to do it again.

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u/rebthor May 03 '22

Funnily enough, I feel the same way. I took the hit this past month due to dupes on the tier-A & not being interested in the "filler" content. Now that I've got no discount to lose, I'm probably going to pause this month too even though if this had been the offering for last month, I would have let it slide since I don't own most of the games and might play the Spongebob Smash knock-off if I owned it.

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u/iamBQB May 03 '22

For that 20% to be worth it, you need to regularly be buying more than $60 worth of games every month.

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u/jm0112358 May 03 '22

That's true if the monthly Humble Choice games have 0 value for you. If the choice games have some value for you, but not quite worth the $12, then it still may be worth it when using the discount for less than $60 of games a month.

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u/iamBQB May 03 '22

I think on the whole for the average consumer, they'd get more value from their money buying humble choice when it has games they want, but otherwise not worrying about staying subscribed for the 20%.

If it happens that every month has enough games to keep you interested that you don't want to cancel than the 20% is a nice bonus, but it's not a good enough bonus to justify paying for months where no games are of interest to you just to maintain it.

In my opinion.

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u/jm0112358 May 03 '22

I agree that it's better to primarily base the decision on whether or not to purchase Humble Choice based on the choice games. However, there could be scenarios in which the choice games aren't worth the $12 alone, but the store discount could push that over $12 (if you're buying games you'd buy otherwise).

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u/_chi3f May 03 '22

I'm alright with not spending $144/y on mediocre games I wont play to save $40-60/y with the discount. Heck, most games dont even get the full 20% off.

It was a very scummy move.

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u/thatnerdguy May 03 '22

Ditto, that 20% has somehow become the best part of the subscription.

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u/cheesegoat May 03 '22

IMO the 20% ratchet was a scummy move.

I don't think it makes sense to new subscribers because for it to be a benefit someone needs to be subbed for an entire year, and who's going to "stay in" for that long just for 20%?

The real reason the ratchet is there is to make it harder for people to leave.

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u/Caughtnow May 03 '22

I did buy several things from HB every year thanks to that discount - now I may not be buying anything (unless they happen to be cheapest, which rarely happens without the extra discount).

And I dont even regret for a second that I hit pause - because its a false economy to pay for however many months of games you would have been otherwise fine with skipping. The few bucks on game X, Y and Z is totally eclipsed by the 3-4 months you are paying for when you really dont care about anything they are offering that month.

They even did away with any benefit of being a long term sub, with the new monthly cost just as low for one-offs.

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u/timmyboyoyo May 03 '22

What you use the discount for

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u/iBobaFett May 03 '22

Whenever a game on my Steam wishlist is on sale, it's usually also on sale on Humble for the same price, and then my 20% discount knocks it down another good chunk.

I've gotten quite a few games for lower than what's technically the "historical low" according to isthereanydeal.

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u/I-WANT2SEE-CUTE-TITS May 04 '22

Is it worth spending money each month to get 20% discount? Pretty sure people are spending more with 20% discount than without.

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u/TheIrishJackel May 03 '22

I did after the last major change. Haven't regretted it.

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u/tieluohan May 03 '22

The only difference between cancelling and pausing is that pausing will automatically renew your subscription. I'm not sure why they changed that, but it makes the decision to cancel over pausing a lot easier.

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u/_thinkingemote_ May 03 '22

That is what I do. Buy when I want to and then just delete my card info for the easiest cancel

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u/james_kaspar May 03 '22

I would have gotten this if C&C was a Steam key so I could play it on the Deck.

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u/rplanet May 04 '22

This is an awesome bundle for me! I was considering buying Spongebob in the current sale, and I've wanted Spellcaster University since it released but not for the price. Planet Zoo is also a big plus for me. I'm actually super pumped about this bundle!

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u/do-You-Like-Pasta May 03 '22

Looks like the leak was real

It sucks that C&C is an Origin key, but I wanted the bundle for Planet Zoo, Spellcaster, Embr, and Spongebob, so I'm buying it anyways

Make sure you redeem the C&C key if you have any interest in it. It does expire in about a year

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u/nhkode May 03 '22

Thanks for mentioning that it's an Origin key. I would have overlooked that. Canceled like a hot potato.

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u/do-You-Like-Pasta May 03 '22

No worries. It's something that is important to many people. If there were not so many games in here that I wanted, I would have paused too

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u/AlternateWitness May 03 '22

I’m seeing mixed comments here, I don’t own any of the games, and I’ve heard good things about Planet Zoo and SpongeBob, is it really worth it, even for just those two games for $12?

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u/FallenTF May 03 '22

is it really worth it, even for just those two games for $12?

https://isthereanydeal.com/game/planetzoo/info/

https://isthereanydeal.com/game/spongebobsquarepantsbattleforbikinibottomrehydrated/info/

Yes looks worth $12 if you want those both, still beats combined all time lows.

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u/Purple10tacle May 03 '22 edited May 03 '22

SpongeBob is a remaster of a 20-year-old game. They did a fine job with the graphics, but left most of the gameplay virtually untouched.

The problem is: it wasn't a great game 20 years ago, it was an a below average collectathon. It essentially incorporated everything that was wrong with the genre and why it ultimately fell out of favor.

If you're a giant SpongeBob fan, if you have very fond childhood memories playing it 20 years ago and if you just love collectathons, it may be worth it. If that's not the case, you probably will not get what people see in this game. It wasn't good 20 years ago, it isn't good now.

Planet Zoo is the typical DLC trap: there's tons of DLC and no real, sensible upgrade path from the base game. So if you like it, you may end up having to re-buy the base game in form of the ultimate edition. And if you don't like it, you wasted you money and time.

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u/loldrums May 04 '22

I got pretty into Spellcaster University fwiw. It's a nice management sim. I'd like a little more variety from it (free DLC planned!) but it's definitely fun for a while.

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u/do-You-Like-Pasta May 03 '22

Think of it this way. The historical low for buying Planet Zoo and Spongebob is probably much more than 12 bucks. You're almost certainly getting a great deal even if you only play those 2 games

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u/MyNameIs-Anthony May 03 '22

The people who follow these bundles tend to have a very skewed perspective on how much value can be derived.

Ultimately, Planet Zoo and Spongebob alone is worth 12 dollars.

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u/shellwe May 03 '22

So much this, people are complaining on here that not every DLC is included with planet zoo.... and I'm like... even if half the games interest you then its gonna be $3.

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u/Solace- May 03 '22

Planet zoo’s historical low is $8.49 and spongebob’s is $6.23. That’s $14.72 for both of them at the cheapest they’ve ever been. So the bundle pays for it there alone and all the other games are just a bonus

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u/iBobaFett May 03 '22

They couldn't even be assed to give us Steam keys for the Command & Conquer remastered collection.

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u/MysterD77 May 03 '22

That's EA for you; they gotta make sure it's w/ their store-front.

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u/iBobaFett May 03 '22

I was really hoping their move back to Steam a few years ago was going to be the end of Origin.

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u/MysterD77 May 03 '22

I guess most companies do NOT want to cut Valve/Steam in 30% anymore.

I get it, on their end, as they want & need more $ since we all know financing development's expensive and all - but yeah, I'd rather have less darn client app's. I got enough of 'em.

GOG and Steam's plenty enough - yet I also have Rockstar Social Club, Xbox for PC, Epic, UPLAY, Battle-Net, and probably numerous others I'm forgetting here.

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u/Moskeeto93 May 03 '22

I'd rather have less darn client app's. I got enough of 'em

Especially now with the Steam Deck. The new UI is so slick and makes controller navigation a breeze. I've been a controller only gamer on PC for many years and only Steam provides me a good experience there. Other launchers create more friction and are a pain in the ass to deal with.

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u/N1ghtshade3 May 03 '22

I guess it's a confusing choice because Steam keys are free to generate so they lose nothing by giving a Steam version instead of Origin. And considering the Steam version launches Origin anyway, they still get to take up space on the user's computer if that's what they're after.

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u/MysterD77 May 03 '22

I think EA wants to keep gamers in THEIR eco-system and store, not Steam's.

If they give out an Origin key - well, then...you'll see Origin's store-front b/c you have to use that service for that version and they think you'll be more likely to use their built-in Store for Origin.

Steam-version might also launch Origin for many of EA's Origin-based games, but EA never can have their own store-front part of Origin showing while that game's version and that is on Steam. When you get an Origin-game on Steam, you get Origin-Lite; it ain't the entire Origin client-app crap.

Another annoyance on Steam-version of an Origin - now as a consumer, you have two jump through Steam to get to Origin.

I'm cheap, so...I'll go where the best deals go; and/or least amount of DRM is at. Often, whatever comes 1st or suits my needs. [shrug]

In most instances - Steam's got more features and is feature-rich; nobody compares to Steam in that regard.

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u/double_shadow May 03 '22

That's so lame...it would be a good bundle if C&C was a steam key. I already have C&C on steam personally, so I don't know if it's worth for Planet Zoo/Surviving the Aftermath alone anyway, but I feel like not buying in almost on principle.

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u/dreimux May 03 '22

Anyone want to start playing Embr together? Preferably weekday evenings/late afternoon PST, discord VC, and 18+. The general sentiment around declining bundle quality makes it pretty hard to convince friends to buy them. Finding a group that enjoys at least trying the mediocre games would be nice.
Some older multiplayer HB titles I haven't really touched yet:

  • Back 4 Blood (Ukraine bundle)
  • Starbound (Ukraine)
  • Satisfactory (Ukraine)
  • Killsquad (April Bundle)
  • Rogue Heroes: Ruins of Tasos (April)
  • 7 Days to Die (Older)

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u/BoardGameBologna May 04 '22

If timing works out I'd love to play most of those, but especially some 7DTD and Rogue Heroes!

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u/dreimux May 04 '22

Looking forward to it. Shot you a DM.

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u/Amaurotica May 03 '22

The Steam version includes: Steam achievements Steam friends lists Steam Trading Cards Steam Workshop support for User Maps

proceeds to give you an origin key

holy scam

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u/Hybridizm May 04 '22

Some good ones in here this month, but I've gone ahead with the cancellation.

I kind of kept my subscription going on the basis of retaining the 20% discount after the change-up, and as a result, found myself accumulating games that I had no idea when I'd get around to playing.

I own Game Pass Ultimate, and share that with my wife on her Series S. Access to that grants me a means to play C&C due to the EA Play integration & Embr, which looks like a lot of fun, is cross-play and also on GP as well. Genesis Noir is available there too.

Planet Zoo is the only title left with any real interest for me, and that interest kind of faded when I realised how much DLC is available for it currently. I remember kicking myself for not buying the max tier Stellaris bundle from way back when. Unless I play with a friend, I miss out on a lot of extra, good content. It's plausible I'd feel the same way with PZ, so figured I'd avoid the headache altogether lol.

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u/Elf4bet May 03 '22

super underwhelming

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u/FrootLoop23 May 03 '22

I get that some of these titles are well received, but for someone that's not big on building/management games - there's really nothing here for me.

We went from 12+ games to 8, and the quality isn't any better. How about $4 off? How about a better selection of games?

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u/LG03 May 03 '22

The leak was completely accurate for a change, no last second substitutions to try to throw it off.

Once again though it's on the disappointing side. You'd have hoped that Humble would have at least brought out some bangers after yet another model change but it's clear they couldn't even be bothered to placate us for a while. We're straight up just getting less now with the same 'meh' quality of what's still there.

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u/Endyo May 03 '22

It's kind of odd they chose to go with an Origin key for Command & Conquer Remastered. It's a very good remaster, and one I highly recommend for fans and newcomers who want a challenging - but much more approachable - classic real time strategy experience. I just think people are going to want Steam keys with Humble.

Despite the really limited value of this and other recent Humble Choice, I at least had Embr as a game I wanted to try and Planet Zoo always had a passing interest for me. I would have been much happier if it was Parkasaurus since I recently decided I wanted to check that out. I've also heard Genesis Noir is good, so I might check that out as well.

The near-universal 2-3 year old games in these Humble Choice selections is making the chances that I already have or don't want a game pretty high. I think the fact that there are any I even previously looked to is surprising since last month there weren't any.

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u/Jpbz May 03 '22

Humble most likely has a deal with EA to get their games on the bundle. Obviously EA would only give Origin keys.

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u/BryanRK May 03 '22

I went in with a year of Humble Monthly on the very first month, then switched to monthly after that year was up. Since then I've paused quite a bit and enjoyed my discount for what it was worth in the store. They changed how many games we got on a few different occasions, they changed how the discount works recently, and they added their own DRM for accessing the Trove since I've been a member.

I know nobody cares, but I'm finally going to cancel. No more pausing waiting for it to get better because it's only gotten worse. Every exciting change they emailed me about and teased has only been to increase their bottom line and in no way benefited subscribers. Do what you want, defend the service and give them your money, but I'm out.

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u/epeternally May 03 '22

and they added their own DRM for accessing the Trove since I've been a member.

Only for the premium Humble published games, everything in Trove before the recent change is still DRM free.

It was pretty obvious from the lack of promotion that Humble didn't know what to do with Trove. The concept never really took off but they couldn't kill it without being perceived as a reduction in the value proposition of Humble Choice, which was already a source of vocal complaints. Consistently bundling the games they publish was also an unsustainable status quo because it meant any subscriber with half a brain wouldn't buy them. The incentive structure they've created to keep people subscribed may be irksome, but it does make a lot of business sense. Having a permanent collection is the carrot not to unsubscribe, and losing your discount is the stick.

I just wish Humble would implement achievements in their app, the lack of feature parity bothers me more than juggling another client (which is just a fact of life these days). Would also be nice if they added everything they publish from day one, but I'm guessing they're getting too much money from Game Pass deals for that.

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u/Traveledfarwestward May 04 '22

Looks good to me.

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u/12121212l May 04 '22

I played the original Battle for Bikini Bottom on the original Xbox. Has funny dialogue and callbacks to old school Spongebob (yknow, when it was good).

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u/kw405 May 04 '22

Less games and the quality of the games doesn't seem any better? Another skip

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u/-TotallyRealName May 05 '22

C&C is worthless but other games are decent. Would be worth it for 6$. Will probably skip this again and get the games from friends who will trade.

Oh they don't even offer store discount any more. It's getting worse.

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u/omegakill May 03 '22

Seeing a few people mentioning cancelling their sub to humble. Do it, they give zero shits about giving you any form of quality, they literally couldn't care less judging by the lack of feedback they give when people constantly critique it on twitter, the money is better spent either on game pass or just saving a couple of months to buy some games during a sale.

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u/Pollia May 03 '22

I'm really surprised by the comments here.

Embr is a great little multiplayer game. My wife and I got a solid 20-30 hours out of it when she was still subbed to gamepass. Prolly gonna gift this to someone else since we're basically done with it, but for nonwierdos who don't sub to gamepass basically permanently like me it's a super great find.

Surviving the aftermath is super well received, is still continually updated, and based off a certain website rarely actually goes on sale for more than 10% off.

Genesis Noir is one of those wonderful little gorgeous indie games you probably wouldn't think to buy on its own but will certainly be someone's favorite that they never knew would have existed without humble.

I know nothing about spellcaster university other than it's less than a year old, is extremely well reviewed, and it's historical low is more expensive than humble choice. That's a deal as is.

I honestly don't know what people are expecting here? 4 great games for 15 bucks is a steal. Getting planet zoo as a bonus is fine by me.

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u/tacitus59 May 03 '22 edited May 03 '22

For me its not so much the expressed "value" - its a bunch the little irritants. First (and mainly) nothing really grabs me and I have big back log of stuff to play. Non-steam C&C remastered. Planet Zoo being the base version (could have at least been Premium) and possibly more importantly, not have a complete your collection version on steam. If at least one of those had been different - especially the first to be honest - I probably would bite. I don't really care about stuff being "triple-A" - but it has to interest me. and none of these do.

[edit: order of annoyance: greatest one is back log and nothing really interest me; second in line in the Planet Zoo annoyances; third and most trivial is the C&C on Origin.'

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u/ThomasVivaldi May 03 '22

The Headliners aren't really headliners anymore, and they should stop advertising them as such.

I think it'd go a long way if they just did a banner depicting all the games in the bundle and present it as a whole package.

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u/OverlyLenientJudge May 03 '22

Don't forget to mention If Found... I don't think I've found a single Annapurna game that I haven't liked.

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u/resumehelpacct May 03 '22

Spellcaster university was free on I think Amazon last year. It's fun but feels like a shell of a game imo.

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u/EndureAndSurvive- May 03 '22

Literally every month is the same response here, I don’t know why I even read these threads anymore.

Unless you’re getting Elden Ring for $12 r/GameDeals won’t be happy

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u/warmsummerdrives May 03 '22

Command and Conquer is an origin key and that's the game I wanted the most other then Planet Zoo so yes it's like 3 very well known games but if one of them is an origin key i will pass as they couldn't even be arsed to give us a steam key for it.

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u/Pollia May 03 '22

I mean, they most probably did ask and were told origin or nothin since the publishers set that deal.

And like personal opinion incoming. If you only want well known games out of choice then that feels like a you problem more than a choice problem.

Even before when there were good (old) headliners, the meat of choice/monthly was all the other shit. Your suzerains, your cook serve delicious', dead in Vinlands, and not for broadcasts.

Choice even when it was monthly was still mostly about discovery, not single flashy headliners.

I'm actually glad they've started backing away from super expensive flashy games to get higher quality indie and semi indie game.

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u/HenryJOlsen May 03 '22

I'm not a huge fan of this month but I totally agree with your sentiment. I'm usually more interested in the "filler" games than the headliner.

Surviving the Aftermath looks worth a play, and as you pointed out it hasn't been discounted deeply whatsoever. So this month is a good pickup for that alone.

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u/Xuldun May 03 '22

Not for Broadcast certainly isn't a traditional game, but I played the hell out of it and got more out of that than a lot of games I've played recently. I think it should get more recognition than relegated to the bargain bin, that's for sure. It's about as unique as you get.

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u/frankie_089 May 03 '22

I agree with you, although I think some of the complaints stem from "perceived value" going down due to Genesis Noir being on Game Pass and Spellcaster University having been given out as a recent Prime game. But not every has/uses those services and some prefer having their games on Steam. I am happy to get keys for both of these, personally!

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u/steelersrock01 May 03 '22

Yeah, this month isn't for me but there are some good games here. I would unpause if I didn't already have Spongebob and a few others. I'm here every month trying to advocate for these games, in every bundle there is usually at least 3 or 4 good looking ones, and he total of their historical lows is always over $12...

The issue comes from most people having a ton of games already that they know they want to play. It's a lot harder to justify spending your $12 on a bunch of games you might want to play at some point in the future after you clear out the 200 other games you definitely want to at least try. Usually having 1-2 games on my wishlist is enough for me to unpause, since I'm pretty sure I'll like them, just not the case here.

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u/Gunner_McNewb May 03 '22

See you next month, Humble.

Dont forget you can skip a month, folks.

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u/FadedPolaroids May 03 '22

Planet Zoo is good, but it's two and a half years old and should really be coming with a dlc pack or two or it should be the deluxe edition, at a minimum.

Other than that there's two remakes and three of the games are currently on Games Pass.

If I didn't have Planet Zoo I would bite, pity there's no dlc packs as I could fill some gaps, other than that Surviving the Aftermath looks okay and If Found... could be interesting, but again there're better deals going on elsewhere when Games Pass is the same price and I'm disappointed that I haven't seen any improvement since the change in format (maybe even a decline in quality, if anything).

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u/SirDigby32 May 03 '22

Planet Zoo in this should of have included the deluxe edition as DLC. I'd argue it could of included at least one of the older DLC as well to truly make this a deal.

I'm the same if I didn't already have it I would be tempted, but waiting on an ITAD notification for a comparable sale if none of these titles look like they are of interest to you. In my local currency this bundle is worse than a typical sale on Planet Zoo.

Only Surviving the Aftermath looks good, but not good enough to justify for me anyway this month.

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u/MorgenMariamne May 03 '22

This month is so bad that i can't even find a single reason to defend it.

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u/Shadowlette May 03 '22

Spongebob, C&C, Planet Zoo (albeit without DLC), and Embr.

What’s the problem?

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u/overlordpotatoe May 04 '22

I think some people just struggle to understand that different people like different games and it's impossible for a bundle to please everyone. It's not like these are all obscure or poorly reviewed games. This would have been an easy purchase for me if I didn't already own two of the three games in it that interest me.

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u/ModPiracy_Fantoski May 03 '22

Spellcaster University's really amazing. Took this month just for this game. Although it's not a definitive release, the game feels full already.

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u/Shardwing May 03 '22

What’s the problem?

The problem is that negative circlejerking generates more imaginary internet points.

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u/Vendetta1990 May 03 '22

It's not really negative circlejerking, people were promised higher quality bundles in exchange for lower quantity + removal of 20% store discount.

However, this bundle is indistinguishable from your average Choice bundle before the change, so where exactly did the increased budget go? There is also the issue of Origin-only keys, which for many people is a serious issue.

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u/Pollia May 04 '22

3 of the games in this bundle are less than a year old and 2 have historical lows more expensive than the choice bundle.

Spellcasters historical low is 15 bucks and is a well rated game.

Aftermath rarely goes below a 10% discount and is 30 dollars normally. While it wasn't received well at launch, recent reviews have trended exceptionally positive after a recent update.

Embrs historical low is 8 bucks and is a wonderfully fun multiplayer game, though I will admit outside of paying 3 bucks for it in a bundle or as part of gamepass it's not really anything to write home about and it's pretty lackluster as a solo game.

If found is a stupidly high praised game that costs 13 bucks normally and has only really seen deep discounts very recently at 50% and mostly on gamebillet and no other stores.

Genesis noir is an incredibly highly rated game who's historical low is 8 and change which happened once on steam and since then hovers around 10 dollars unless you want to buy it on EGS.

I can't tell if people are trolling when they say there's no quality games or if they're just so blinded by their weird biases that they can't imagine people liking stuff other than AAA games.

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u/masterchiefs May 04 '22

I can't help but feel like those "golden age Humble Monthly bundles" that included COD WWII and Spyro + Crash did a lot of damage to people's perception of Humble. Humble has always been about giving spotlights to underdog indie titles and AAA bundles like the old EA one were the exception to the norm. Nowadays people are so spoiled they immediately trash a Choice month if it doesn't have an ultra popular AAA title in it (and if it does, the bundle is automatically good because of it).

Like, it is so sad to read these threads. I get it, these games might not be in line with everyone's taste but no bundle that consists of varied genres has ever been. Genesis Noir is one of the most inventive narrative-wise video games I've played in recent years and holy shit it's basically only 1.5 dollars here, but all the "garbage" and "trash" responses are why I don't bother recommending anything because these people don't deserve good games.

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u/Shardwing May 04 '22

I'm not saying people can't or shouldn't be disappointed, but "so bad that i can't even find a single reason to defend it." seems like a bit much.

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u/draxd May 03 '22

This is horrible

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u/keymeplease May 04 '22

Can anyone tell me the differences of C&C steam vs origin? Doesn't steam require origin to launch it anyway, like ubisoft games on steam with uplay?

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u/epeternally May 04 '22

Steam version has workshop support for maps.

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u/acctgamedev May 04 '22

Quite a few games I wanted this month so I'm pretty happy with the selection. Surviving the Aftermath and C&C were both on my wishlist. My kids will love SpongeBob and Planet Zoo so this month kind of makes up for last month for me when all I really from that bundle was Monster Sanctuary.

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u/_sideffect May 04 '22

Already have Spongebob and CnC, so no need for this month

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u/Team7UBard May 04 '22

Still waiting for my refund for when they took payment for last month after I paused for a month.

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u/moomoomilky1 May 04 '22

Is spellcaster university any good

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u/OneMoreGame May 04 '22

This is a skip for me since almost none of the games interest me. I forgot how many months I have been skipping. Hopefully they will include some nice RPG games next time.

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u/TECHNOFAB May 04 '22

I can't even redeem the origin one because I'm unable to login into origin for months now. I don't use it, but still annoying when I at least wanna redeem a key ...

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u/KingMob9 May 04 '22

Another month another pause, until Yakuza 4 pops in a bundle, probably.

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u/velve666 May 04 '22

Glad I came here first, did not realize C&C was origin..now I am not as excited as I was when I saw the lineup..not so sure now, got a month to decide if its worth it

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u/akerd May 04 '22

I would be tempted only by Planet Zoo, but that's only the base game, so I will pause this month.

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u/C477um04 May 04 '22

Yeah this one definitely isn't as strong. I actually disagree with the general sentiment here though. I think they've really made good on their promise to improve quality when they dropped the quantity. Last month getting ghostrunner and destroy all humans was awesome. The month before there was desperados 3, Mass Effect Legendary Edition (!) and nickelodeon all stars brawl, all big selling points. Before that borderlands 3 was the big seller which yeah was eh, but I played the hell out of per aspera and Before we leave, and before that was mafia definitive edition. So yeah this month is weak but it's been back on form lately, very strongly, and even this month there's at least 3 of the "smaller" games I'm really excited to try.

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u/davemoedee May 05 '22

I would have grabbed this month if I didn't buy Planet Zoo a few months ago. I was going to wait for it to be in a bundle, but someone gave me a Steam card in December and I decided to get Planet Zoo to entertain my 5yo.

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u/tender-titties May 03 '22

This actually looks like a pretty good bundle.

Planet Zoo + Embr + Surviving the Aftermath and Spellcaster University all look good.

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u/treblah3 May 03 '22

Hey OP, thanks for posting! We've been cracking down a little on post titles so forgive me for sounding pedantic, but could you not round up the price and keep it at $11.99 for posts in future please? Cheers!

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u/PandoraKris May 03 '22

Sure!

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u/treblah3 May 03 '22

Many thanks! We appreciate you leaving the word "free" out of your Prime post yesterday also, that always gets a few folks' heckles up.

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u/Opetyr May 03 '22

Hey mod can we get a specific reply set like r/photoshopbattles for all the people just saying cancelling/pausing. It doesn't help people since they give no information and ways people time actually looking for actual good reviews of the games.

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u/treblah3 May 03 '22

I usually just downvote those because I agree, they're not adding to the conversation. Not sure how we would implement an automod rule to automatically remove those comments though, given that folks use different wording. Plus, the first couple of "I don't like this bundle" comments often do result in some decent discussion about why they're skipping/pausing.

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u/CitricBase May 03 '22

Hi, what needs to be done to eliminate this rule? I feel strongly that there is no good reason to enforce the permeation of deceitful marketing sigfigs. This bundle costs $12, and it shouldn't be against the rules to say that it costs $12.

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u/treblah3 May 03 '22 edited May 03 '22

It's $11.99. I know it seems pedantic to haggle over a penny, but for search and history purposes we would like to maintain accuracy where possible.

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u/CitricBase May 03 '22

Saying $12.00 would be inaccurate, I agree with that much. Saying $12, on the other hand, is accurate.

How can we petition for the rule to be updated? The negatives associated with perpetuating marketing tactics definitely outweigh the historical search value of the subreddit archive, when there is no way to search by price.

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u/treblah3 May 03 '22

You've lost me. I'm asking OP to please not round up $11.99 to $12. Arguably there is little difference in day-to-day purchases, I get that. However, we strive for accuracy and $11.99 ≠ $12. Wouldn't an inaccurate price be the marketing tactic you want to avoid?

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u/Jandolino May 03 '22

C&C is an origin key? For real?

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u/ARandomFakeName May 03 '22

Boring month and a skip for me.

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u/Cutmerock May 03 '22

SpongeBob is a lot of fun. No idea about the rest.

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u/t-money86 May 03 '22

The only game I want is on Origin. Guess I might as well cancel instead of pausing if they are going to continue to put games on Origin

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u/Armani_8 May 03 '22

I'm not going to lie, the Origin version if Command & Conquer is actually a punishment. Not only does it take up more space on the drive than its Steam counterpart it's missing half the features the Steam version supports.

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u/epeternally May 03 '22

Yeah, that one bothered me too. Having to juggle multiple clients is one thing - I already use Playnite for that - but not even getting feature parity is a slap.

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u/HauptmannTinus May 03 '22

C&C Origin key, blehhh.
Might still get the bundle for Spongebob and Planet Zoo tough.

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u/thattanna May 03 '22

Really happy for this month's game, just a little disappointed C&C is on Origin instead of steam :(

And yeah some people have mentioned, Planet Zoo should have come with its DLCs not just base since it's the type of game with tons of DLCs.

I'm also interested in Spellcaster University as well. Never heard of Surviving the aftermath but would gladly try it.

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u/skelement May 04 '22

I think I might bite on this one, even though it's getting a ton of flack. I've been wanting to try Planet Zoo for a while and the SpongeBob game is also intriguing to me. Wouldn't mind trying out C&C for old time's sake as well.

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u/bobasaurus May 04 '22

Same here, two pretty good games makes it a decent deal. Shame about the planet zoo dlc being expensive though.

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u/Mrazolino May 03 '22

I think I'll cancel my subscription if this trend of Origin games continue.

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u/IMJohnWayne May 03 '22

can origin just die already?

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u/JLHFans May 03 '22

It will be a pause for me, because i own the 2 headliners ( planet zoo and C&C) but another solid month. I really like the new Humble Choice this year. Lot of different genre, every month we have an expensive and nice game, and less but more quality games.

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u/Nellior May 03 '22 edited May 03 '22

As I'm not happy with that month I'm skipping it but doing *this each month is getting on my nerves.

Me: Cancelling this month - HB. are you sure? - Me: skip this month - HB: will you change the idea even if we offer you $4 of discount - Me: no, skip this month - HB: this will make you loss all our nice games from this month - Me: skip! - HB: do you really want to loss your 10% discount and the game trove - Me: S K I P ! - HB: this option will pause you suscription until next month. You can still... - Me. SKIP!!! - HB: Ok, we'll allow it but.. before proceding could you answer us why you're skipping this month -ME: really?

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u/KatoMacabre May 03 '22

If found... Is an absolutely gorgeous LGBTQ+ coming-of-age type of game that I really enjoyed and still remember to this day. There's A LOT of reading in it, I would say it's almost a visual novel, but I really really liked it and I would 100% recommend it.

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u/Outlander357 May 04 '22

What a joke of a bundle...

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u/timmyboyoyo May 03 '22

Only spongebob game look good

Surviving the aftermath is paradox game so will be many dlc

Planet zoo has many dlc

C&C is on other launcher

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u/belgarionx May 03 '22

Isn't this a good month? I own most of the games so I'll be skipping, but it's a great selection?

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u/moo422 May 03 '22

This month is great for sim/management types, with Surviving the Aftermath, Planet Zoo, and the Wizard Academy manager. Not great for more gamers looking for more actiony games, so I can understand the disappointment.

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u/chripan May 03 '22 edited May 03 '22

My heart is filled with hate.

Less games and too many games with extra DLC to purchase. It feels more like the base game is given away for free for everyone to buy the 100 USD+ of extra DLC later.

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u/Shadowlette May 03 '22

I mean… it’s a $12 bundle..

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u/wjousts May 03 '22

Well, at least I got my disappointment out of the way already with the leak.

Pausing this month. I'm marginally interested in Surviving the Aftermath, but I have such a backlog of city builders now that it feels unlikely that I'll ever get to it. Planet Zoo is decent, but I already have it.

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u/Divachi69 May 04 '22

glad I cancelled my subscription and use the money to buy games that I would actually play such a Elden Ring. Don't see how anyone actually has the time to play these games to justify the cost

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u/Avaery May 04 '22

I paid full price for C&C remaster at release. 100% worth it for the nostalgic trip to 1995.

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u/Careful_Education506 May 03 '22

with all the free epic games games we get i dont think this is a good deal anymore for older games.

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u/Shadowlette May 03 '22 edited May 03 '22

It’s alright. Don’t understand all the people bitching in here though.

I have Spongebob but Planet Zoo without DLC makes it a pass for me. There's maybe like 2 or 3 games of questionable quality.

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u/Stomphulk May 03 '22

Would have gotten it had I not purchased C&C almost 6 months ago (and played it through EA access several months before that). Other than that there's nothing here I think I'd enjoy.

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u/timmyboyoyo May 03 '22

How people are being hard, they like the games or not

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u/CyraxPT May 03 '22

Debatable. Like you said, if someone isn't into strategy/simulation games, that's more than half of the games. Sure, they might be good games regarding those genres but if you're not into those, then it's a "bad" bundle because you waited a month for something that you won't get.