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Many of us still have doubts about this dinosaur of a company. I know I sure did until recently. The goal of this post is to provide information that will give you the confidence to direct register as many shares as you are comfortable with and explain how selling works with Computershare so you can decide if that is the right strategy for you. Let’s begin by recapping what we know so far.
TLDR: Computershare is legit and potentially the safest place to hold your shares. It is also possible and very easy to sells shares with them, but that might not be the best strategy for your personally. Decide for yourself what percentage of your holdings you would like to keep there, but make sure you also have shares in a trustworthy broker to be able to sell during the MOASS.
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Simply leave a comment on any "Computershare" flaired post like this one with "!DRSBOT:numberofshares!" and read the guide below on how to use the other bot commands!
List of Guides & Resources for Using Computershare
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Transferring for US Apes
Canadian Ape Guides
For any Canadian apes who have had trouble or been refused the ability to DRS their shares. This is a link to a Demand/Letter of Intent post that includes supporting documentation to ensure each Canadian ape has the ability to direct register if they choose to do so
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Newest IBKR transfer guide with update on the process
===================================================================IRA Transfers - Adding more soon!
DRS your IRA the YOLO way (Small tax hit)
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What is Computershare?
Computershare is an Australian based transfer company with offices in 20 countries. They are over 40 years old and are the official transfer agent for not only GameStop but large corporations such as McDonalds, Johnson & Johnson, Coca Cola and AT&T. Even though they offer some broker-like services it is important to note they are NOT A BROKER. They do however have 12,000 employees dedicated solely to keeping accurate records for their 75 million customers.
In 2003 Computershare acquired the brokerage Georgeson Shareholder Corporation which gives you the ability to purchase or sell shares directly through them. They were not built to buy the dip or day-trade which is why those of us used to app-based, commission-free modern trading unreasonably judge their platform as archaic. What they were built to do is slowly and repeatedly invest in a company, and the irony we have slept on this for so long is tragic. You can’t purchase a specific amount of shares with them. You can however choose a dollar amount to make as a one time or recurring investment. When you really think about it, this awkward process seems to be almost perfectly built for most apes that are just buying more shares every paycheck. Unfortunately, we have become so accustomed to following every price movement of the ticker and buying the dip we forgot one of the most important principles. It’s all a dip.
In fact if you go off the average share price every 2 weeks from March till September and had purchased shares automatically through this program, your cost basis would be close to $191.10. If you have done better than that you should give yourself a solid pat on the back. But really, what's a few dollars in a trade of this magnitude?
DTC STOCK WITHDRAWAL
What began as a place to hold your infinity pool shares or a way to get the best odds possible to collect a hypothetical NFT dividend is quickly evolving into potentially the best place to hold the majority of your GME shares. It took a while for all this information to make its way through the community but once apes started actually transferring their shares to Computershare we were greeted with a glorious sentence in our transaction history.
There has been a lot of FUD spread about CS on this. When you direct register your shares they are indeed withdrawn from the DTC and control by Cede & co. You are now not just the beneficial owner but the registered owner of these shares as explained in this graphic.
This feels like an appropriate time to bring up one of the most aggravating pieces of information I recently learned. It’s literally illegal for companies to talk about or promote direct registration of shares. This is justified of course by the DTCC arguing that if stock issuers were made aware of DRS then they would have no reason to exist.
Why on earth wouldn’t we want an entirely vestigial private corporation with a monopoly on almost every stock transaction, one that makes money by charging fees for the privilege of using their unnecessary company dictating policy? There couldn't possibly be a conflict of interest there right? Are you mad yet?
“DTC states that issuers to do not have continuing ownership rights in shares they have sold into the marketplace and therefore cannot control the disposition of shares already registered in DTC's nominee name by directing that those shares be surrendered to the transfer agent or by restricting their eligibility for book-entry transfer at DTC.44 DTC contends that attempts by issuers to control their publicly traded securities are improper and may constitute conversion*. DTC states that by purporting to exercise the rights of the shareholders, issuers are* interfering with the legal and beneficial rights of DTC and its participants with respect to securities deposited at DTC and with DTC's obligations under Section 17A of the Act.”
They even go on to basically admit that they aren’t required to do anything to curb naked short selling and the best way to take care of it is for investors to direct register their shares.
"DTC disagreed with the commenters' contention that it had an obligation to take action to resolve the issues associated with naked short selling because those issues arise in the context of trading and not in the book-entry transfer of securities. DTC pointed out that if beneficial owners believe that their interests are best protected by not having their shares subject to book-entry transfer at DTC, then they can instruct their broker-dealer to execute a withdrawal-by-transfer, which will remove the securities from DTC and transfer them to the shareholder in certificated form."
We have become well aware that price discovery is not properly reflected in lit markets. We know the reported float is incorrect. The worst part is we are far from the first investors to face this seemingly insurmountable problem. Have a quick look at a few select quotes from a comment to the SEC over 15 years ago.
“We are of the opinion that the rampant "naked short selling" of stocks and the associated epidemic of failures of "good delivery" and loans made to mask "failures to deliver" that we are currently experiencing, threatens the very core and integrity of our financial system.”
“Naïve investors assume that the SEC has created a "level playing field" on these trading venues. They assume that the regulators are professionals, that they know every dirty trick in the fraudsters' playbook, and could recognize a fraud while it is being perpetrated. These investors really think that they are buying "real" shares from a "real" shareholder, perhaps across the country, with a market maker acting as the middleman.”
“Investors also do not have a clue that their own broker/dealer, who owes the investor a fiduciary duty of care after being paid a commission as an agent, is "renting" out their purchased shares to the mortal enemy of the client's investment. The investor has been "sold out" by his own brokerage firm. There isn't even any sharing of the rental income from the loan.”
“The naïve investor does not realize that there would be consequences for his brokerage firm if it were to "break ranks" and do the right thing. The Wall Street community and various co-conspirators have made this issue into a "Wall Street versus investors" battle.”
Why Direct Registering YOUR shares is important
We now know what we are up against and who Computershare is. Let’s put it together. First we need to identify a very important distinction between “Street Name Registration” and “Direct registration”. According to the SEC:
"Street Name" Registration — The security is registered in the name of your brokerage firm on the issuer's books, and your brokerage firm holds the security for you in "book-entry" form.
"Direct" Registration — The security is registered in your name on the issuer's books, and either the company or its transfer agent holds the security for you in book-entry form.
Whenever you purchase a share with any broker, whether it's Robinhood or Vanguard you don’t really own them and can’t 100% control their lending status. I am not trying to spread FUD about brokers. They are a necessary evil and some are certainly much more trustworthy than others but at the end of the day, they are NOT your friends. They are playing both sides of this trade. There is a massive financial incentive for them to lend your shares to short sellers and historically speaking they have done everything in their legal authority to lend them. Registering your shares in your name and having them held on the books of GameStop is the only guaranteed way to prevent this from happening.
It’s also important to recognize that if you believe GameStop will be issuing an NFT dividend even trustworthy brokers like Fidelity have stated they can not guarantee delivery. I can’t link the thread due to our no brigading policy but here is their official statement on it from their subreddit.
“Fidelity's platform currently does not support holding cryptocurrencies or receiving dividends in the form of cryptocurrency. If a company issues a dividend in the form of cryptocurrency, then other arrangements would need to be made in order to receive the dividend. In the past, special dividends have been paid as stock representing value held in cryptocurrency or NFTs, and not a direct issue of cryptocurrency or NFTs.”
From that same SEC page:
“Direct registration allows you to have your security registered in your name on the books of the issuer without the need for a physical certificate to serve as evidence of your ownership. While you will not receive a certificate, you will receive a statement of ownership and periodic account statements, dividends*, annual reports, proxies, and other mailings directly from the issuer.”*
What Now And What’s An Exit Strategy?
So everything sucks and there is no right answer? Kinda. If you feel like you are being overloaded with information, I feel you. We have spent the last year learning so much about this fraudulent system it’s hard to know what the right thing to do is. I wrote this post because I had questions and I wanted answers. I still haven’t found all of them but I was able to learn enough to personally believe that Computershare is an integral part of this whole saga.
Before we wrap this up the final piece of the puzzle is what it looks like to SELL with Computershare. We all know that account creation and buying shares is a convoluted, confusing and slow process. This is just because most people that would use a system like Computershare don't need it to be simple or fast. CS batches buy orders together and does not execute them immediately. Remember most stocks are nowhere near as volatile as GME and waiting a few days to execute a purchase order is not a big deal.
The good news is there is indeed a light at the end of the tunnel. Selling through Computershare is extremely easy and fast. I have committed the ultimate sin in the name of science and for the first time since this all began I SOLD A SHARE so YOU DON’T HAVE TO. Please forgive me Papa Cohen, it was for the greater good.
So yes, there are fees associated with selling. We are so used to commission free trading we have forgotten that “if the service is free, you are the product”. It’s a little annoying to see these fees but when the share price looks like a phone number I don’t think it will bother you. When I placed this sell order I instantly got a text confirmation. So while buying takes longer than we would prefer, selling takes no time at all.
It’s also important to keep in mind you do not need to and others have presented a case for why you should not sell through Computershare. If Computershare does indeed prevent new DRS once the float has been registered you would be selling real shares to your mortal enemy. We haven't verified this yet but it’s certainly worth considering. If you choose to transfer some or the majority of your shares to CS you should absolutely be selling the shares you have left in your brokerage first during the MOASS. The ratio of distribution is entirely up to you. Some apes are doing 10% in CS and some apes are doing 99% in CS. Some apes can’t transfer any shares to CS because of their brokerage’s insane fees or logistical limitations. Some apes like myself have a lot of shares in a Roth IRA and can’t transfer them out due to early distribution tax implications (although I think I found a solution to that you will find at the bottom of this post). Some apes just trust the age old “Buy & HODL” and don’t want to explore “Buy, Register & HODL”.
Remember, everyone here is making their own financial decisions based on their own research. Calling someone a shill because they haven’t transferred to CS or haven’t transferred as much as you is TOXIC and you should be ashamed of yourself. If you believe CS is the way, provide data to change hearts and minds. Don’t shame people. Personally I have bought shares in CS and done 2 transfers. One using the form from Fidelity and one using the phone call system. I can verify that both work. The form was a pain and the transfer took 5 days. The phone call was a breeze and the transfer took 4 days. No matter which broker you use, when you initiate your transfer make sure to get a confirmation number that is logged in their system. Just in case there are any issues this will allow you to call back and quickly get an update instead of starting all over.
If you made it to the end of my rant, thank you for reading. Take everything you read, including my post with a grain of salt. My brain was as smooth as a baby's bottom 9 months ago. I have grown a few wrinkles now but I am just a guy on the internet. I am trying to provide data and leads for you to do your own research and come to your own conclusions. One piece of advice I am very comfortable giving is you absolutely should be diversifying your holdings across multiple brokers. We are in uncharted territory. There has never been and probably never will be another situation like GME.
Many have come before us and failed. That said, never has there been such a dedicated, motivated and powerful group of shareholders like us. Our collective intelligence is a force to be reckoned with. I am so incredibly proud to be a part of this community and constantly in awe at the content put out by this sub.
I have included links to the best guides I have seen explaining how to use Computershare at the bottom of this post. I would also like to drop in a link to a company that u/MyPlayProfile found that will let you transfer your IRA to them and they will direct register your shares. Bear in mind due to how retirement accounts work they are registered in the name of the plan for the benefit of you. That’s not perfect but its just how retirement accounts work. I spent some time on the phone with them and was able to confirm that at least the shares are indeed withdrawn from the DTC. I am in the process of making an account and moving my Roth IRA with Fidelity to them. Once everything is settled I will make another post describing the process.
Here is the company. If you call, ask for Ryan Fischer. He has been awesome and has a lot of history he can share about the events in 2008 that was the genesis behind their IRA DRS service.
What We Still Don't Know
Here are the questions that I still have about Computershare and I encourage you to try and find the answers for your own personal benefit and for the benefit of this community.
What happens if/when Computershare registers the freely traded float or even the total outstanding shares?
What would it take to get Computershare to publicly state how many GME shares they have registered?
(I have already spent hours on the phone with them trying to get this or to find out what it would take to get this)
What are the dollar limits on placing limit sell orders?
Have Ryan Cohen and other insiders at GameStop direct registered their shares with CS?
(I have always just assumed this was the case but its probably worth verifying if that is possible)
Other Resources for Computershare
Great write up by u/_Exordium explaining another reason why DRS is important. It removes any risk your shares might face during a broker default
A video I recently made on the importance of "Broker Diversification":
Current DRS Bot Tally as of 11.25.21
💡 Education DFV's legendary GME bull thesis is now exactly 18 months old and it's the best GameStop DD out there — and it never hit the frontpage of reddit. most of his predictions already came true, the DD is as relevant as ever. Anyone who hasn't seen it should watch this piece of Internet history 💎🙌🚀🌕youtu.be
🤔 Speculation / Opinion Hester Peirce getting called out on being full of Shxx back in her SEC commissioner hearing in 2016! No matter what you think about Elizabeth Warren, - she called this one RIGHT! (no political comments please - APE NO FIGHT APE)
🗣 Discussion / Question This is Jim Himes, a congressman from Connecticut. For the 2nd time he is trying to concentrate decision making power over all crypto transactions to the US Treasury Secretary and reduce our ability to fight that power. He is an ENEMY to the American people. And yup, former executive @ Goldman Sachsgallery
🗣 Discussion / Question Following the death of that sub currently all over Reddit right now, it makes me appreciate even more how the only real media exposure GME has had from an Investor was Keith Gill, and how well he conducted himself for that appearance.
I feel this would have been a much harder struggle had he been similar to that AntiW mod on Fox lately. Roaring Kitty is not our leader but he was the main figurehead due to his investment at the time of the court hearing and this recent debacle makes me appreciate his professionalism so much more.
Just shows how easy it is to entirely discredit an entire group of various individuals by focusing on 1 weak link. We've experienced a tonne of it here over the last year (runic glory) but luckily have not had such a public shitshow.
In summary. Thank you Keith. Hope you're living happily and taking care of yourself.
Good Morning Apes!
So after yesterday's post FED meeting market wide rug pull there were some interesting data points I wanted to point out about our data.
*the data is not complete an is missing about 2m million of yesterday's volume
There is a possibility that some of yesterday's market wide price action was a liquidation. We know that FTDs for this window represent possible futures contract obligations. CME is rather unforgiving in their liquidation of participant holdings, unlike the NSCC. There was some suspicion of margin calls taking place last week with NFLX and with MSFT on the 25th. If some has failed to meet CME obligations they would liquidate their long holding's first before settling short holdings.
*This is highly speculative and only being considered given the time frames
No data from yelyah2 this morning so far.
Another thing to note is GME's borrow rate went up again yesterday hitting 1.25% on IBKR.
I think the rest of this week could be a little spicy since we are testing delta neutral in pre-market already and still have significant numbers of FTDs pouring in.
You are welcome to check my profile for links to my previous DD, and YouTube Livestream & Clips
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Edit 4 1:00
Covering FTDs in this channel around 95 just flat right now possibly a small move up near EOD
Edit 3 10:37
Just shorting the shit out of us
Edit 2 10:15
This was noticed
Edit 1 9:56
Early pump and back down to fill the pre-market gap, IBKR borrow rate is , if I'm not mistaken the highest it's been since the May-June run.
Lower volume this morning but that low volume is sustaining a very nice uptrend. Already back above 106 as everything recovers from yesterday's sell-offs .
Shares to Borrow:
IBKR - 25,000 @ 1.25% (75,000 borrowed)
Fidelity - 1,496 @ 0.75%
MM FTDs due from 2 days today
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