r/gaming Dec 08 '21 Helpful 1

In case anyone is wondering how many dislike it has (Ubisoft Quarts)

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u/TrueGamer124 Dec 08 '21

how did you get the dislike count back?

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u/Shooting64 Dec 08 '21 Wholesome

Search for "Return YouTube Dislike" in the Chrome Store

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u/TopherLee01 Dec 08 '21

My god, thank you good sir

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u/Theredphantom32 Dec 08 '21

It's going to be gone on the 13th though because YouTube is getting rid of the data for it.

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u/allinev_ Dec 08 '21

it cant be gone completly because the creator can see the amount. so we might be lucky and some genius might get a way to display it again.

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u/SimisFul Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

The data for dislikes will be gone, not the plugin. The plugin will instead give dislike data from people who also have the plugin

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u/allinev_ Dec 08 '21

the data cant be gone forever. they just store it diffrently and hide it better. The creator still sees the exact amount of dislikes. So there still has to be data around. someone just might find out how to get it again for a further plugin.

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u/iKonstX Dec 08 '21

They just restrict the access to anyone but the creator and no more such plugin will be possible. It`s not rocket science. Also weird that they didn`t do this in the first place

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u/Nago_Jolokio Dec 08 '21

It's weird they removed it in the first place. They're now just doubling down on it to make a more permanent change instead of a hot patch.

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u/otte845 Dec 08 '21

They waited because a sudden API change could break a lot of third party apps, but the mail detailing the API changes and the removal of dislike counts came at the same time...

Source: registered as YouTube app developer, found first by the email

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u/mattsowa Dec 08 '21

That will not happen.

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u/SimisFul Dec 08 '21

He won't see them once they can't be recovered, if google wants to hide that data well they can easily do it, its not like they don't know how to hide data anyway. "The creator" can only see what google lets him see, once they remove the access to that data its game over and dislikes will slowly fade away like a ton of other features people fought to keep.

The only way that he could keep a representative enough dislike count was if he could store all the dislikes data on his own database but then any mew video after this wion't have accurate dislike data as they will only come from people that have the plugin which will always be a very low ratio compared to the rest of the youtube userbase.

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u/no1nos Dec 08 '21

I mean maybe someone will find an exploit to keep getting dislike data after Google disables the public access to the data next week. But as soon as Google finds out about it, they will fix it. They will also possibly ban any accounts that used the exploit, as it is basically a hack at that point. I think you just need to face reality, dislikes aren't coming back.

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u/Mammoth-Man1 Dec 08 '21

THe plugin pulls the data from a youtube public API endpoint. After the 13th that endpoint is being closed. It will be internal only private only visible by the creator themselves. No way for the plugin to get the data after that.

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u/SimisFul Dec 08 '21

What I mean is that the plugin is already prepared for this and once it happens they will instead show a dislike count from the dislikes of people who put those dislikes while usong the plugin, recording those dislikes for its own - not google owned - internal database.

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u/Mammoth-Man1 Dec 09 '21

If it does cache dislikes its a snapshot and is stale data, only useful for historical reference, and wont work with new videos that go up after the 8th.

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u/SimisFul Dec 09 '21

We're saying the same thing.

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u/RingWraith8 Dec 08 '21

Check the faq on the extension, guy says it will stay because of a system they made

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u/Shooting64 Dec 08 '21

They will basically calculated the Dislikes on new Videos out of the View to Like Ratio.

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u/DTSHDMA Dec 08 '21

Google Chrome Extension

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u/ZippyParakeet Dec 08 '21

Yep, this is exactly what the dislike button was removed for.

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u/L2Hiku PC Dec 08 '21

Makes sense why they waited

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u/Magnetic_dud Dec 08 '21

Clearly it has nothing to do with the creators mental health and stress : for them the dislike count is still shown clearly in YouTube studio, so the stress is the same!

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u/ZippyParakeet Dec 08 '21

Lmao as if YouTube actually gives two shits about its creators. Most recent case in point: Totally not Mark and Toei.

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u/spenpinner Dec 08 '21

So that we could generate karma by showing hidden dislikes?

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u/EtheusRook Dec 08 '21

Want to hold back the advance of NFTs in gaming? Just keep doing what literally everyone in the world was already doing - not playing Ghost Recon Breakpoint.

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u/too_lazy_2_punctuate Dec 08 '21 Helpful

Lmao good luck. Gamers are literally the dumbest consumers of all time. They preorder from companies with shit track records, they buy cosmetics in unfinished games, they buy battle passes like clockwork for the most minimal amounts of content, I could literally go on forever about how stupid gamers are as consumers it's beyond parody. But the best part is that they will attack the developers of these games like rabid dogs and say nary a peep about things like crunch time or the toxic workplace cultures that have taken root at many of these companies, they have zero perspective.

So good luck stopping NFTs, you couldn't stop microtxs, loot boxes, exclusives, pay2win, or mobile gaming but I'm sure this time around you guys will stick together lmao.

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u/Son_Of_Borr_ Dec 08 '21

The fact that people preorder shit in the age of digital releases blows my mind.

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u/Tharsis-evo Dec 08 '21

The slow download speed isn't even a good excuse because worst case you're waiting one more day, what game has ever launched with stable servers on day one anyways?

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u/IHaveADogAndHeIsADog Dec 08 '21

Every time I've pre-installed something on steam, the process to unlock it has taken way longer than it would have if I'd just waited and downloaded on release.

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u/Calenwyr Dec 08 '21

Those games that offer devent preorder perks like a week of early access I still preorder if I am going to play it during that week.

If the preorder is just the game then unlikely to do so unless the preorder is on sale at reduced price.

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u/JukePlz Dec 08 '21

It's often because of discounts and fomo-inducing time-limited content. Companies know very well how to exploit the weak minded.

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u/EtheusRook Dec 08 '21

Sure. But in this specific case starting with this specific game, all I'm saying is that we literally just need to not play the game that no one was playing.

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u/nalicali Dec 08 '21

Actually pretty good punctuation here.

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u/fortuunes Dec 08 '21

Are you trying to insult us gamers? I might be speaking for myself here but we know we're dumb af. Apes together stronk

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u/too_lazy_2_punctuate Dec 08 '21

Ehhh it's all in good fun but I meant every word I said

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u/fortuunes Dec 08 '21

No hard feelings my guy. I fuckin pre-ordered BF2042 for early access and immediately regretted it. But im actually having a good time playing it with friends. I've come to terms with the fact that AAA titles from now on are gonna be lobster shit minus a select few. If I don't set high expectations I don't get disappointed.

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u/CreatiScope Dec 08 '21

You realize you are literally the person he was describing. It’s your money but you really cool dropping 60 bones on a piece of shit like that?

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u/fortuunes Dec 08 '21

$100 but yes im cool with it. Especially since im having fun playing it lol.

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u/GokuDosGames Dec 08 '21

$100 on a fucking game? Spoiled kid I'm sure of it

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u/fortuunes Dec 08 '21

Nope. I work a 9-5, 5 days a week and live paycheck to paycheck. Sometimes having just enough for a new game.

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u/DapperPerformance Dec 08 '21

live paycheck to paycheck. Sometimes having just enough for a new game.

Priorities, huh.

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u/too_lazy_2_punctuate Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

If only my wife had similar expectations

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u/ThePendulum0621 Dec 08 '21

Played bf5 beta for about 10 minutes; haven't looked back. Fuck shit games.

I dont even have interest in looking at this dogshit big devs are spewing in their promos.

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u/TheMisunderstoodLeaf Dec 08 '21

I think I'm finally out of this loop because of halo infinite. I pre ordered it but managed to cancel it. But I did pay for the BP, I don't think I'll ever pay for the BP again, in any game.

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u/KingKamp1410 Dec 08 '21

Yes gamers and general consumers will buy shit for no purpose that has no real value. However, limited edition NFTs that are earned through playing a game have actual value that can be traded for real money on a secondary marketplace. If people are already so stupid and buy stupid shit with no value, at least NFTs give them the ability to take off platform or resell them to get money their initial money back or turn profit. Please explain to me how this system of play to earn is worse than our current broken system that is controlled by the 1%er CEOs that don’t create or play these games?

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u/Calenwyr Dec 08 '21

There is no limited edition NFT that has any value in a game due to how modding works.

If the NFT is a cosmetic you can just use a free mod to apply the cosmetic to your account. If the NFT is a companion etc then within a month or so someone will make it possible to replace an existing companion with the NFT one.

Anything that exists in the game files can be unlocked for your view easily (single player or multiplayer) if you need others to see it in multiplayer they also need to install the mod.

For NFTs to have value games would need to lock down the ability to mod them which honestly is more likely to just drive players to games with rigorous modding communities.

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u/sethmi Dec 08 '21

Gamers are so fucking stupid they'll buy a machine for gaming that's locked to specific games, accessories, and quality settings. If that's not the dumbest, most widespread example of being an idiot, I don't know what is. They're buying and defending what is literally shitty, corporate owned PCs, where games are more expensive, and objectively worse In all regards. Gaming has been down the shitter since 2012

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u/sevaldsen96 Dec 08 '21

This must be the stupidest take i have seen for a long time

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u/IforgotwhatIwasdoing Dec 08 '21

Out of curiosity, what are you talking about?

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u/zachsonstacks Dec 08 '21

He's talking about consoles, but he's intentionally misrepresenting them to make them seem like the worst thing ever.

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u/Fallingfreedom Dec 08 '21

This is all the proof you need that we are doomed as a species if left alone.

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u/ShadowJay98 Dec 08 '21

The species is left alone, we rule the food chain...?

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u/NeedAdviceForSuicide Dec 08 '21

Judging by the Battlepass with little content I guess ur a Dota player as well?

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u/Philosopher_3 Dec 08 '21

I literally see nothing different other than I guess having a specific serial code for each item? I mean I’ve seen games have auction houses for money before, I’ve seen cosmetic items before, I don’t see what the NFT is really doing or bringing to the table. I don’t really see why it’s newsworthy other than having flashy buzzwords like NFT. NFT’s should be integrated with digital games so we can actually claim ownership over our digital games rather than just leasing the games from wherever we buy them from. At least that what I heard is one of the better uses for NFT’s in gaming.

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u/nodealyo Dec 08 '21

You're absolutely right. NFTs bring absolutely nothing from the consumers perspective. It's just another way of implementing what we already have.

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u/salcedoge Dec 08 '21

r/gaming is a bunch of people complaining about something they won't play or buy but feel entitled to since it's ruining their "gaming experience".

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u/CrypticButthole Dec 08 '21

NFTs in gaming will be a big change for the field.

Right now, if you want to sell a CS:GO skin on the market, that sale can have a 15 day hold on it. Meaning: if a game is on sale on Steam for 14 days, and you have enough in CS:GO skins to cover the game, it's entirely possible you will miss the sale because Valve decides you're not allowed to sell your skin for 15 days. With NFTs, Valve can't deny you the ability to sell them on a non Valve marketplace like Atomichub.

Or, lets say a game goes offline, and you have tons of cosmetics and items in the game. Once the servers are offline, those skins and items are gone as well. With NFTs, you would still have access to the items and skins, and could theoretically use them elsewhere, outside of the game, or sell them to collectors. NFT attributes could be loaded into another application and used without the original game.

Or, lets say you have $1000 USD worth of in game skins. Then your account gets banned. You lose those skins, and the ability to convert them to currency and use that for other things. With NFTs, you would not lose control of them, and could sell them to players of the game.

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u/Calenwyr Dec 08 '21

Not really how it works to import your NFT skin into another game that game needs to have the NFT in the game files (or how would it know what to display?) Once its in the files its available to anyone who wants it via a mod.

You technically think your buying a unique array of pixels but anyone else who plays the game can just mod those pixels onto a different item and have them.

The value of the NFT would be entirely based on the number of people playing the original game (or the number of people playing alternate games that allow your NFT to be applied). Its value would also be impacted by the number of mods that allow other players to have a fake version of it (which would function the same as the real version just not have the backend verification that the real one has).

Due to the way NFTs work you have exclusive access to the original version of the thing but anyone can possess a digital copy (same resolution, same specification everything just no unique token attached). So having an NFT provides no real value in gaming as everyone else who wants it can have it to, hell I would argue it has no real value in art or other media either why pay 300k for the digital rights to something when everyone else can have that same thing for free.

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u/idache Dec 08 '21

"we remove the dislike for small creators" they say

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fall494 Dec 08 '21

Terrible game on release, dont know if they made it any better. but anything UBISOFT does will always be met with resistance these days.

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u/LoanSurviver101 Dec 08 '21

For good reason

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u/RagingDenny Dec 08 '21

So Ubisoft has 823 employees

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u/Yucares Dec 08 '21

Can someone explain what that is and what it means for the game?

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u/gwaybz Dec 08 '21

Its their platform to introduce NFTs (they call theirs digits) to their games.

With the big craze about NFTs, Ubisoft is jumping on the train and trying to lead the way in the game industry.

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u/Uzirael Dec 08 '21

NFT are a sort of proof of ownership. Anyone can download a picture but only one person has the "original". Think of it like paintings. You can buy copies of the Mona Lisa, but the original is in a museum, and that original would be the NFT in this case.

As a whole, we can probably expect mtx to get a lot more aggressive as they will probably try and slap NFT on darn near everything in games. There is small potential that NFT could be used to actually give you ownership over a digital title so you wouldn't need to worry about losing it, but we can probably assume that's unlikely for now.

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u/very_anonymous Dec 08 '21

I still don’t get it. Everyone is talking about it, people are trying to explain it, I just don’t get it.

Maybe I am just getting old and out of touch, but it just seems like gaming is getting too damn complicated.

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u/Uzirael Dec 08 '21

It took me a while too.

A longer explanation. NFT stands for non-fungible tokens. Non-fungible is like saying unique, or one-of-a-kind. Something that can't be replaced. To make a longer example:

Say you open a business. And you frame the first dollar you make (like Mr. Krabs). You earn more dollars but they're not the same. Your business burns down and that framed dollar is gone. Sure you can earn more again but nothing will ever replace that first dollar for its value outside of being currency.

For video games, it'd be like if the developer releases a limited holiday item, like a Santa hat, that you buy for 5 dollars. Then, next year they don't release it but you still own your special hat which is now worth more from demand where there is a lack of supply. Take a look at Runescape's party hats, or current CS:GO and TF2 markets.

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u/very_anonymous Dec 08 '21

Okay so they are creating artificial scarcity of digital content to try and create an economy that gives it value.

As long as it is cosmetic only crap then I guess I don’t really care. But I won’t be participating in it.

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u/JackiPearl Dec 08 '21

Let's hope it stays at that and they don't come up with stuff such as "You have to own this nft to unlock this thing" or anything like that.

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u/Harkiven Dec 09 '21

Too late. They're already starting to try and develop games based on a play to earn model.

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u/TunaBucko Dec 08 '21

I feel like nfts basically have to be attached to ageless games to function right? So like maybe for csgo but idk what other game it actually works for, when the playerbase is super small arent the NFT values gonna plummet?

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u/sakaay2 Dec 08 '21

same i don't get it

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u/Dpsizzle555 Dec 08 '21

And modern gamers are stupid enough to buy them

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u/JadeGamer94 Dec 08 '21

Is there any way this is going to affect guys who just want to play the game normally?

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u/Even_Cheesecake2902 Dec 08 '21

I hear they’re wanting to put credit card readers on controllers so we have to swipe our card whenever we want to play the game. In driving games you will have to actually buy gas in the game with your credit card. And if you act too extreme in the game real cops will arrest you. This is a business not entertainment!! You will play whatever shit they overcharge you ever month to play

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u/Even_Cheesecake2902 Dec 08 '21

They’re going back to the old days when you had to put change in a machine to play a game that was impossible to beat

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u/Shooting64 Dec 08 '21

Is this really true ? I think the Gaming Industry is able to do every shit right now.

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u/Even_Cheesecake2902 Dec 08 '21

Yeah man you’re going to have to tap your card to access the menus. It costs 50 cents to access the options menu and another 25 cents to toggle the options in each sub menu. So if you’re playing inverted it will cost you 75 cents plus tax to make the game comfortable for you to play. What’s really going to suck ass is the 5 dollars it costs to pick a car in racing games. There will be premium cars that are impossible to beat unless you have one too that will cost the actual price of that car. Gran Turismo is going to make billllllllllions

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u/Chikuaani Dec 08 '21

Well probably the more intrusive it gets the less actual free cosmetics you get in game.

Think of AC game but you wont find good armor anymore, you need to buy anything better than basic looks.

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u/JadeGamer94 Dec 08 '21

Every single game I've ever played, I've never spent any money regarding cosmetics. That'll never change for me.

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u/Chikuaani Dec 09 '21

Yeah but the point is base games are going to become more bland customization wise (on a full priced singleplayer game) meaning we who dont buy cosmetics are stuck with normal looking armor and weapons since all detailing and dev focus will be on monetized cosmetics. we lose in that.

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u/Joseph7891 Dec 08 '21

I'm in the dark

What's an nft?

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u/SomeRandomPetey Dec 08 '21

art that you "own"

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u/Balrog229 Dec 08 '21

And just like that i’m never buying another Ubi game

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u/ron-darousey Dec 08 '21

What about Ubisoft Gallons?

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u/NightWingDemon Dec 08 '21

I'm more concerned for Ubisoft Liters

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u/Fushigi_enthusiast Dec 08 '21

What is Ubisoft Quartz?

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u/aftertheradar Dec 08 '21

Same, I have no idea what’s going on other than Ubisoft is being scummy (what else is new) and something with NFTs?

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u/SquiggleBoys Dec 08 '21

.its just a micro transaction with extra step

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u/Flaky_Till_8495 Dec 08 '21

Playable nft lol. Just make a skin n call it “ghosts” and shut up about nfts

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u/totesmcdoodle Dec 08 '21

Who are the 823 people who liked it?

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u/gogozombie2 Dec 08 '21

Bots and shills at Ubisoft mostly.

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u/Bananaslamma24 Dec 08 '21

too bad Ubisoft will never know.

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u/Enigmatic_Hat Dec 08 '21

I know isn't exactly the topic but... why would games need NFTs? NFTs are for verifying ownership, video games have already had personal ownership of online items for 15+ years now. Seems like a complicated solution to a solved problem.

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u/DTSHDMA Dec 08 '21

i actually like Ubisoft 🤔🙂😬

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u/NiceNiceGravy Dec 08 '21

I do too but fuck this NFT nonsense

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u/NiceNiceGravy Dec 08 '21

Hahaha if you think a penny of NFT profit will go toward better games you’re delusional. Ubi is already one of the larger devs out there, they have plenty of resources to make good games as it is right now

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u/minev1128 Dec 08 '21

By "more better games", you mean chuck out a bunch of mediocre ones, which they have been doing for the last decade

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u/LoanSurviver101 Dec 08 '21

Find the moron

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u/W4shcl0th Dec 08 '21

NFTs are not "skyrocketing" They lose value upon second sale every time.

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u/SaintPariah7 Dec 08 '21

What is NTF? I've drifted out of the knowledgable in-crowd and can't catch back up anymore. Keep it simple if you can.

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u/NiceNiceGravy Dec 08 '21

Non fungible token. A digital item that cannot be duplicated. The concept is a high tech version of trading collectibles

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u/minev1128 Dec 08 '21

Who the hell asked for those?!

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u/Shadura Dec 08 '21

A very very very large majority of people. People have been asking for items that's make them unique for the majority of modern civilization, it's just now entering new media states.

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u/minev1128 Dec 08 '21

So basically skins and cosmetics which have been around for a long time, but now they have the ability to market them?

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u/KingKamp1410 Dec 08 '21

Play to earn system is replacing pay to win system in the gaming industry. NFTs make this possible. NFTs can be various different things in games and are completely different from value less cosmetics because they can be sold on a secondary marketplace for real $$

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u/TheDadThatGrills Dec 08 '21

Literally everyone that has felt the negative effects of digital piracy

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u/Syxez Dec 08 '21

That's not how the industry works, lol.

Also, just look at Konami.

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u/DTSHDMA Dec 08 '21

🤔🙂

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u/Vhascometo__ PC Dec 08 '21

Excuse me sir but you can only like specially approved, single player, indie RPGs around here.

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u/Seasonedberet Dec 08 '21

Why are people so mad at Ubisoft ntf is the same as a csgo or tf2 skin you can sell it or buy and the company takes a little % of the sale what’s the problem

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u/KingKamp1410 Dec 08 '21

There is no problem. People hating on this have no idea what they are talking about. NFTs give rise to play to earn system that has potential to revolutionize the gaming industry in a good way for creators, players and collectors. This fud on NFTs in game is such bullshit

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u/Bchange51 Dec 08 '21

more like pay to earn absolutely nothing. i’m not paying 20k for an in game item actually fuck off

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u/Seasonedberet Dec 08 '21

And you are paying 20k to have a howl on csgo i also love how I got down vote to hell whit out a explanation of why I’m wrong

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u/Bchange51 Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

no i’m not cause i’m not a moron who spends life savings on a video game item that does nothing for me other then prove i have more money then everyone else which is somthing i don’t want to do anyway

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u/Seasonedberet Dec 08 '21

You are not but there is people that actually do buy them to re sell them later or just like the skin and keep it, ntf pictures are a scam in my opinion but you know what’s not a scam ntfs in video games because they have been here since the steam community market drop on steam and people are just hating on them now because they compare it to a picture of a monkey whit a hat which they are not and people like you talking shit about them for no reason thats why we have rare items in video games that we can’t sell like a black ice on r6s and things like that which could be better for us and the gaming industry

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u/KingKamp1410 Dec 08 '21

These people have no clue what they are talking about so how could they start to explain their reasoning

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u/Bchange51 Dec 08 '21

oh your selling an NFT? that’s cool. (Right Click + save as PNG) thanks for the free artwork my man.

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u/Seasonedberet Dec 08 '21

I would had love if I could sell skins on games that I no longer play like fornite I was there since season 1 and I wish I could sell my battle pass skins for real money without selling my account

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u/GnomiGnou Dec 08 '21

Oh but Ubi will be all like:
"We got a bunch of likes for our new way to screw people out of their money, so we went ahead with zero changes!"

Fucking Youtube :| "This is not to protect big corporations"

Uh huh, next act please. I want off this damn ride asap.

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u/plart2006 Dec 08 '21

The video was removed from search. Link, anybody?

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u/Lilluc06 Dec 08 '21

What's an NFT?

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u/mehoff88 Dec 08 '21

It’s hilarious how many people don’t know about extensions but “I have honey, is that the same”?

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u/Vhascometo__ PC Dec 08 '21

Stay strong my 822 brothers!

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u/LordJim_ Dec 08 '21

I don’t know why everyone is freaking out. It’s literally most trading systems with a new name