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[Highlight] Harden tries to draw the foul by hooking defender’s arm, but gets called for offensive foul Highlight

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u/RetardedAdvice NBA Nov 06 '21 Silver Gold Helpful Wholesome Brighten My Day

Everybody get in here. Its happening

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u/HokageEzio Knicks Nov 06 '21

Justice.

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u/theFromm Lakers Nov 06 '21 Wholesome Brighten My Day

Basketball is healing.

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u/brandkwame Nov 06 '21

Finally. Love the NBA but the past terrible calls really bugged me and played a factor in my disinterest.

Glad we're improving. Just hope the refs dont go back to what it was like they usually do after 3 months pass.

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u/iyamgrute Raptors Nov 06 '21

I agree. I can pinpoint the exact moment I was over it - this Shumpert arm hook/flop in the 2017 Finals (and he got the call).

Every time I see this kind of BS, I’m thinking “pleeeease just play normal ball.”

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u/Bryant_2_Shaq Nov 06 '21

Now stop calling technicals every time a player talks shit or shows emotion and we’re good! Let the players play!

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u/andrewe4ta Nov 06 '21

So this is a really weird thing for refs. At basically every other level of basketball you instantly T if a player curses at you or another player. You train for years and then all of a sudden when you are good enough to get to the nba you have to put up with entitled children yelling at you every time you make a calm they mildly disagree with. I’d say T them up every time a player argues a call and they’ll shut up pretty quickly. Will make it way more enjoyable to watch as well.

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u/DrTeleMundo Nov 06 '21

I think people are more talking about players talking shit to each other or taunting. Mutombo would’ve averaged 3 techs a game with these rules!

Edit: and you never would have gotten the iconic MJ waving the “not in this house” finger at mutombo either.

As far as complaining to refs, yeah agreed. Fuck that annoying shit.

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u/Katman666 Nov 06 '21

And Shawn Kemp dunkin on a bloke and standing over the guy and pointing at his face while he's laid out on the floor. Definitely a tech.

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u/DrTeleMundo Nov 06 '21 edited Nov 06 '21

The Lister Blister!

Edit: also I miss the Sonics. The GP to Kemp hookup was what made me love bball when I was a wee lad.

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u/Katman666 Nov 06 '21

The Glove. What defensive dreams were made of.

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u/CrunkCroagunk Knicks Nov 06 '21

For a period Mutombo did get Ts called on him for it. At some point he made the adjustment to start directing the finger wag at the crowd instead of the opposing players and it avoided him further calls.

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u/Icyik Nov 06 '21

? MJ got a tech for that

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u/Otherwise_Window Warriors Nov 06 '21

The trouble with that is that it's good and necessary for players to be able to discuss calls with the ref. Ask what the ref saw, ask the ref to look out for something you think another player is getting away with. If you don't know why the ref made the call they did you can't adjust your play accordingly.

And if they T up "every time the player argues", then fans will start bitching endlessly about inconsistent calls because from the broadcast you can not always tell what the players are saying.

I remember one game where people were outraged in the game thread about Draymond Green not getting teched for "barking" at the refs, and then the broadcast showed a closeup where the camera had picked up audio as well.

What Draymond actually said: "Good call! That was a good call!"

(Because Draymond always looks angry when he says anything.)

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u/salmans13 Nov 06 '21

Fans bitched 30-40 years ago too. We just did it with the 15 people we knew and not reach 10000s online lol.

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u/NotAn0pinion Nov 06 '21

Justice, but his remaining career isn’t long enough for full equality

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u/OrpheusNYC Knicks Nov 06 '21

Reparations then.

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u/SuspiciousSpyderman NBA Nov 06 '21

Treaty of Versailles intensifies

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u/darkescaflowne Warriors Nov 06 '21

Yeah we should take away all his rings… oh wait.

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u/relax-and-enjoy-life Nov 06 '21

Finally.

I. Love. It.

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u/SummerGoal Warriors Nov 06 '21

God. Damn. Beautiful.

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u/delamerica93 Kings Nov 06 '21

I cannot believe I'm alive to see this shit. It's surreal

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u/aznkupo Warriors Nov 06 '21

Honestly tho, if the refs can see this easily. Why haven’t the league done anything this whole time?

It’s because Harden while amazingly talented was getting his stats inflated with the old rule set and the NBA loved it.

I really think they realized they went overboard in pumping up numbers league wide and it’s not sustainable.

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u/SusanBwildin Raptors Nov 06 '21

Morpheus is fighting Neo!!

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u/Cam_Newtons_Towelie Hornets Nov 06 '21

wtf i love the refs now?

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u/whtge8 Magic Nov 06 '21

Can’t wait to see how this is called in a playoff game.

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u/JoshAllenIsTall Nov 06 '21

I would love to see one of these guys just get called strictly for this stuff and wind up fouling out in the first quarter.

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u/powpowpowpowpow Nov 06 '21

There is a reason for Harden's lack of playoff success. He already doesn't get a lot of these.

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u/NBAccount Warriors Nov 06 '21 edited Nov 06 '21

Yeah, but now these will be offensive fouls!

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u/powpowpowpowpow Nov 06 '21

Sounds good to me.

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u/EverybodyBuddy Lakers Nov 06 '21

Tbh at this rate James Harden will probably be out of the league before the playoffs anyway

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u/EverybodyBuddy Lakers Nov 06 '21

“tHey’rE JuSt pIcKinG On HArDeN”

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u/GoAvs14 Nuggets Nov 06 '21

Even if that were the case, I feel like most of us would be okay with it.

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u/ProfessorPetrus Nov 06 '21

Forreal. Homie picked on basketball defense as a whole for like 6 years.

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u/manning-2-manningham Knicks Nov 06 '21

I'd be okay with it but it's a thousand times more satisfying watching him legitimately do it to himself

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u/Quirky-Skin Nov 06 '21

Exactly how I feel. Guess he's got some unlearning to do eh?

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u/Otherwise_Window Warriors Nov 06 '21

Yup. I personally would be fine for him getting absolutely screwed by the refs for the rest of his career.

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u/UnnamedStaplesDrone Warriors Nov 06 '21

jUsT doNt fOuL hIm!!!11

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u/Greaves- Celtics Nov 06 '21

I hated Houston fans so much back then. They legitimately thought he's some unstoppable force

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u/whitesammy Mavericks Nov 06 '21 Gold

Trending tomorrow "#HardonForHarden"

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u/tjrchrt 76ers Nov 06 '21

As long as he keeps trying to pull this shit, he deserves to be picked on.

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u/phonage_aoi Warriors Nov 06 '21

I just don't get why stuff like this wasn't called before.

He's literally grabbing the defender's wrist.

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u/Blaz3dnconfuz3d Mavericks Nov 06 '21

He’s already stiff arming him before that too

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u/100tacosX100dollars Pacers Nov 06 '21

Paul George does it all the time too, throws his non shooting hand up into the defender and draws the foul

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u/threeangelo [LAL] Pau Gasol Nov 06 '21

This is exactly like when they brought Hitler down

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u/powpowpowpowpow Nov 06 '21

Are you saying that Harden is going into a bunker where he is going to marry his girlfriend before poisoning her and his dog before shooting himself on the head with orders to his minions to burn his corpse with gasoline?

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u/Tapprunner Nov 06 '21

That's how I took it too. Weird thing to say.

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u/pikajewijewsyou Thunder Nov 06 '21

Basically but he’s doing it at a strip club instead of a bunker

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u/powpowpowpowpow Nov 06 '21

Somehow that sounds realistic for some reason.

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u/Mintastic NBA Nov 06 '21

Harden still waiting for the Steiner counterattack.

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u/BiscuitsforMark San Francisco Warriors Nov 06 '21

I can't stop smiling

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u/KingBuno Nov 06 '21

He's such a shithead

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u/Bren0man Warriors Nov 06 '21

Preach!!

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u/Playful-Educator4921 Nov 06 '21

Anytime you see Harden toss his head back and his beard gets vert, it’s a flop. Going on for years, so refs are now like 1:50,000. 😂

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u/blanco2701 Nov 06 '21

Watching this on a friday night will make me sleep like a baby.

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u/Squid_Contestant_69 Warriors Nov 06 '21 Silver

Waking up every 2 hours and screaming for a boob?

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u/ApostatePipe Jazz Nov 06 '21

Sounds like a normal Saturday night for me.

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u/turkmileymileyturk [OKC] Russell Westbrook Nov 06 '21

Can confirm. Just woke up.

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u/aeroET Spurs Nov 06 '21

As someone with a 1 month old this is too true and oh so painful

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u/GSW_Franky Warriors Nov 06 '21

It gets better! Then they start teething

Aaaaand it gets worse

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u/Otherwise_Window Warriors Nov 06 '21

Give it a year or two and they'll only wake up crying exclusively while you and your wife are trying to have sex

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u/Chiswell123 Washington Bullets Nov 06 '21

You love to see it

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u/Johnpecan Warriors Nov 06 '21 Take My Energy

It feels like the refs only get brought up in a negative light but to call that in realtime, big props to that ref.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '21 Helpful

Seeing the refs make these calls, it feels like the realize how much of a part they play in the watchability of the game, and they're making calls that show that.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '21

It makes me realize they could have been calling this the whole time, or at least no calls. I always thought that he was just tricking them they couldn't see that he was doing this, but apparently they knew what he was doing the whole time and just chose to call fouls on the defender, which in a way kind of makes it worse

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u/BubbaTee Nov 06 '21

they knew what he was doing the whole time and just chose to call fouls on the defender,

The refs work for the NBA. The NBA wanted higher scoring. The refs got the message.

If your boss makes it a point of emphasis for you to put cover sheets on your TPS reports, you should probably put cover sheets on em if you want to keep your job

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u/bfwolf1 Nov 06 '21

I’ll make sure you get another copy of that memo.

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u/uristmcderp Bucks Nov 06 '21

Well it's their job to enforce the rules, not make them. Can you imagine the chaos if the refs were encouraged to make calls based on what they felt was common sense?

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u/RonSDog Bulls Nov 06 '21

Like jury nullification, but for refereeing. Sort of like the NFL and reviewing pass interference calls last season, but I think the consensus is that the league didn't actually want replay review to change the pass interference call/non-call on the field, so not quite the same.

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u/mrtomjones Raptors Nov 06 '21

League decides what they call. Not the refs. He did fool them sometimes I am sure but mostly they just call what they are told to

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u/CryBerry Nuggets Nov 06 '21

probably easier when it's harden lol

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u/DeadDay [OKC] Steven Adams Nov 06 '21

Its just so beautiful.

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u/maethlin Warriors Nov 06 '21

I didn't know a single call could give me so much joy, but here we are.

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u/Mintastic NBA Nov 06 '21

Dude getting posterized: I sleep.

Foul baiter getting his comeuppance: /r/instantbarbarians

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u/dookoo Lakers Nov 06 '21

I've been watching it for hours.

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u/CIark Nov 06 '21

This almost gave me a boner. Basketball porn

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u/CaptObvious420 [SAS] Boban Marjanovic Nov 06 '21

Be sure to seek medical attention if it lasts more than four hours.

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u/Coffeeandsoda Lakers Nov 06 '21

Almost? I almost finished.

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u/Arctic_Pelican Pelicans Nov 06 '21

Also funny to see the applause quickly stop on the bench when the call goes the other way

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u/Ruben625 Lakers Nov 06 '21 edited Nov 06 '21

This is literally porn

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u/EMONEYOG Nuggets Nov 06 '21

This is the way

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u/Iron_Chic Warriors Nov 06 '21

All joking aside, Harden really does this well. I've seen this done down low when there are a lot of players fighting for the ball, but to do it when you have the ball on a one-on-one? Impressive.

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u/keuralan Heat Nov 06 '21

He’s a highly skilled player, which makes it interesting how he’ll adapt his game to the rule changes.

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u/Best_North_2689 NBA Nov 06 '21

This is art to my eyes, music to my ears, rice to my mouth.

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u/hummus123 Bulls Nov 06 '21

10/10 offensive foul

10/10 with rice

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u/bring_rice Nov 06 '21

Thanks 😄

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u/babbagack Nov 06 '21

Imagine back in the day you never had to see this trash.

This ref is here to be the garbage man to clean up the trash, and we appreciate him.

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u/Snaxx11 [OKC] Russell Westbrook Nov 06 '21

If the refs had called it like this all along Harddn wouldn't have an MVP

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u/likecamp 24 Nov 06 '21

r/nba where poetry happens

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u/jffgoldblum Warriors Nov 06 '21

You can see steve nash clapping when the whistle is blown. Its beautiful

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u/undead_funk [GSW] Andrew Bogut Nov 06 '21

That's beautiful, man 🥲

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u/Ironhide94 [GSW] Stephen Curry Nov 06 '21

lmao. I love he's getting called out for this shit now

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u/babbagack Nov 06 '21

he makes it look so real though doesn't he? Refs probably on to it pretty relatively easy now since they are right next to it happening and they have the go to snuff this rubbish out.

Everyone knows it isn't natural.

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u/justin_tino Warriors Nov 06 '21

He makes it look about as real as an Indian Soap Opera would

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u/profmcstabbins Nov 06 '21

Ballywood catching strays

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u/achyutthegoat Spurs Nov 06 '21

Already failed no nut November.

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u/Deadbotx Knicks Nov 06 '21

Josh Hart is right there with you

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u/brandonellis02 Nov 06 '21

haha love it

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u/MrDunkingDeutschman Nov 06 '21

If Harden never recovers from these rule changes I wonder if there's going to be an asterisk behind his previous career achievements.

This guy had stretches of play where he averaged 40 points. He was an offense all by himself and his foulbaiting was a core pillar of his success.

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u/Otherwise_Window Warriors Nov 06 '21

Not an asterisk, but it's really going to prove everyone who said he couldn't do it without the foulbaiting right.

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u/SirSnorlax22 Nov 06 '21

Harden was a master baiter but I'm glad that Era is coming to an end

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u/wisenburg3 Bucks Nov 06 '21

It would be really funny if he called giannis unskilled and then this rule change hurt harden going forward permanently

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u/Hojie_Kadenth Warriors Nov 06 '21

No asterix. Every player's achievements were according to era, same with Harden. He just represented everything bad about the era.

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u/SlumlordThanatos Supersonics Nov 06 '21

I hate Harden and how he played the refs more than the game, but I agree with you here. It was part of the game, and it's not like he was juicing.

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u/Trusted_Charlatan Nov 06 '21

It was always a joke. fuckers on here that didn't watch Kobe and Wade in their prime were trying to use True shooting percentage to tell me this guy was better than them.

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u/rake2204 Pistons Nov 06 '21

I don't care if it's Harden, Cade, Steph, or whoever, I'm just so glad to see this move legislated out of the game.

The way I figure, offensive players are plenty talented enough without needing this cheap stuff. Plus, it gives some power back to the defense. I honestly missed defenders being able to get a bit aggressive without being worried about an offensive player throwing a non-existent foul at them.

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u/ThatsRich Pistons Nov 06 '21

For real. We saw KD ball the fuck out tonight without having to try to draw any of this bullshit. These guys are way too good at basketball to pull the ticky tack stuff.

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u/Fletch71011 Bulls Nov 06 '21

Curry has been getting demolished with no calls for years, and I'm going to be bold and say he's been pretty good.

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u/BeachCruisin22 Knicks Nov 06 '21

Thank you for your service

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u/SmilesUndSunshine Lakers Nov 06 '21

I'm going to be bold and say he's been pretty good.

Spicy take

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u/iISimaginary Nov 06 '21

Spicy curry

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u/idonthavecovidithink Warriors Nov 06 '21

I’ve always said that Curry could get sexually assaulted on the court and still wouldn’t draw a foul

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u/onamonapizza Spurs Nov 06 '21

Exactly. This isn't the beauty of the game of basketball....a sport that millions of people enjoy playing, watching, and analyzing at many different levels.

This is someone trying to take advantage of the specific way the NBA chose to write the rulebook regarding the way they officiate basketball.

If you tried this move in a pickup game and then tried to complain about it, you'd get punched in the face and would have it coming.

So glad the NBA is finally cracking down on this nonsense, and Harden looks like a douchebag still whining for a whistle.

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u/SignorSarcasm Nov 06 '21

It's in the same vein of intentional fouling at the end of college basketball games for me. Like yeah I totally get it, it's part of the rules/game but goddamn it if it isn't the lamest end and last few minutes to any type of sporting event.

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u/shanmustafa Nov 06 '21 edited Nov 06 '21

you never realized how much of hoe harden played like until you see him do the hoe antics and them not get called

like you watch it not get called and you're like oh wow that's absurd that he ever did this to begin with

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u/RetardedAdvice NBA Nov 06 '21 Helpful

Its even crazier when harden fans say "Just dont foul him bro" lmao

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u/NunoxGames Nov 06 '21

Just defend with your arms behind the back bro ,its easy.

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u/welmoe Lakers Nov 06 '21

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u/Ok_Rhubarb_8155 Mavericks Nov 06 '21

It looks like Harden's asshole is sucking the defender in

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u/M1L0 Raptors Nov 06 '21

A reverse fart, if you will.

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u/Typhoeus85 [SAC] Peja Stojakovic Nov 06 '21

A traf.

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u/ThatOneOtherAsshole Cavaliers Nov 06 '21

Holy fuck I’m crying

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u/I_Ate_Your_Child Grizzlies Nov 06 '21

The fact that this is Pat Bev makes it even funnier to me

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u/raps1992 Raptors Nov 06 '21

This is my fetish

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u/toofine Lakers Nov 06 '21

Then he hops on your back and you get a flagrant 3.

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u/onamonapizza Spurs Nov 06 '21

You try to defend James Harden?

Right to jail. No trial, no nothing.

Believe it or not, jail.

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u/Gloomy_Slide Warriors Nov 06 '21

Basketball is great….because of jail.

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u/CoolAsTheUnthawed [OKC] Russell Westbrook Nov 06 '21

This dude put Schroeder in a headlock and they called the foul on Schroeder, I couldn't believe my eyes

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u/toastysniper Lakers Nov 06 '21

Bruh like he literally did this shit so much people had to defend with arms literally behind their back

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u/DancingCactius Bulls Nov 06 '21

Don't tell Harden fans this. They don't want to hear that the guy is being properly defended for the first time in years and isn't as good as other NBA stars who weren't being rewarded for this type of BS.

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u/i_lack_imagination Nov 06 '21

That and their common response was often "Well if you take away the free throws he still leads the league in PPG" which was such a BS argument as well. It's one thing to say that the way defenses played against him was being altered which gave him more offensive opportunities, its another thing for it to actually play out that when he isn't getting those free throws he's also not getting those offensive opportunities.

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u/C0oK1e_Monsta [NBA] Kobe Bryant Nov 06 '21

Harden fans are honestly the worst fans in sports. Right up there with Houston Asterisks defenders. Must be something in the water in Houston

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u/BigTymeBrik Celtics Nov 06 '21

Deshaun Watson defenders are pretty bad too. What the fuck is wrong with Houston?

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u/bigthama Hornets Nov 06 '21

Houston isn't a real city. It's just an oil company town that never stopped growing.

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u/extralyfe Nov 06 '21

didn't they just have a bunch of people die at a festival that's still continuing today?

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u/NunoxGames Nov 06 '21

I know, that was the joke

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u/toastysniper Lakers Nov 06 '21

Yuh I was just ranting

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u/Prideofmexico Knicks Nov 06 '21

I had an aneurism when Hawks fans did that in our series, and I actually like Trae

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u/shanmustafa Nov 06 '21

i was always okay with the one where he stuck both arms out and people reached in, like yeah that's a foul

stuff like this, or where he just ran into someone and threw it up, fucking cringe

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u/trapper2530 Bulls Nov 06 '21

Kobe and wade I felt like got the defender up then leaned in and actually tried to make the shot. While guys now would literally jump 3 feet to thr left and flail a shot up with a defender straight up to get a foul and miss wide hy 5 feet.

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u/NotJuniorBridgeman Nov 06 '21

TBF, this shit is as old as the game itself. There was a famous Sports Illustrated article from the 1960s where a Celtic player spells out five tricks he uses to bait foul calls from the ref.

I agree it was never as egregious as it was the past decade and change, though. And there was a time when you might get a defender to bite on a fake and then go up into him, but he was also going to club you in the head as part of the deal. But the second there's a ref out there making judgment calls, you're going to have players trying to sway the odds in their favor. That is one (of many) reasons why pickup and "real" basketball (at any level) are really two different sports (kind of like how softball and baseball have a lot in common, but they're different sports).

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u/Xc0liber Lakers Nov 06 '21

I guess when it comes to people back then, they'll use it here and there to get an advantage. They don't constantly do it the entire game.

There's an argument of players focus on scoring the ball first, try to draw foul second. For harden case, it's reverse so he'll draw foul first before thinking of scoring which make it seems more ridiculous throughout the years.

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u/ThePeriodicPooper Hornets Nov 06 '21

I was interested in reading that article so, well, here you go. https://vault.si.com/vault/1963/12/09/smart-moves-by-a-master-of-deception

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u/NotJuniorBridgeman Nov 06 '21

What’s hilarious about that SI article is that (according to NBA historians I’ve chatted with) it had a material impact on how the refs called fouls against Frank Ramsey (the Celtic who wrote that article). Supposedly, his FTA went way down after that article was published, and refs were keen to swallow their whistles when he had the rock.

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u/LameSignIn Nov 06 '21

you never realized how much of hoe harden played like until you see him do the hoe antics

I couldn't watch Rocket games due to this. Its was a huge struggle to watch playoffs due to this. Only good part about the playoffs is he didn't get as many of these calls.

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u/lemonpepperlarry Nov 06 '21

And also you never had to watch him past round 2

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u/NoShameInternets Celtics Nov 06 '21

My absolute favorite Harden sequence: https://youtu.be/Pz00F8r5s4c

I’m a little biased but still.

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u/shitposting_irl Nov 06 '21

knew exactly what that link would be, still watched it anyway. never gets old

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u/crewserbattle Bucks Nov 06 '21

I liked when Giannis domed him that one time lol

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u/CaesuraRepose Nov 06 '21

My favorite was when Giannis damn near knocked his ass out with that pass. That shit was spectacularly placed, right on his head.

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u/Glaurung86 Cavaliers Nov 06 '21

I love how Harden looks confused after doing something that would get called as an offensive foul 1000 out of 1000 times. lol.

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u/NoShameInternets Celtics Nov 06 '21

Smart sold the first one for sure, but Harden just snapped on the second and plowed him over. You love to see it.

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u/DrAwkward17 Magic Nov 06 '21

It's amazing to me that he complains about obvious calls like that. It's like his enormous ego honestly has him feeling like he can't get called for a foul. To be fair, the refs have been sucking him off for years.

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u/oneblank Nov 06 '21

The refs and the announcers. Just listen to the replay “cmon man. Rarely is that called”. Big ole suck fest.

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u/SlumlordThanatos Supersonics Nov 06 '21

Dude straight-up shoulder checks Klay Thompson and then gets mad when he gets called for the foul.

It's one thing to complain about bullshit calls, but when you whine every time you don't get a foul call you think you should've, it just makes you come across as...well, whiny.

The NBA is on pace to shoot a record low number of free throws, and I'm all for it.

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u/welmoe Lakers Nov 06 '21

lmao CP3's face after the 2nd Harden foul

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u/CIark Nov 06 '21

“Shut up hater he’s averaging 35”

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u/TheAlgaeOil Bucks Bandwagon Nov 06 '21 Silver Helpful (Pro)

10 of those points were off his fake ass non-basketball plays.

The NBA finally crawling out of their ass putting their foot down on ugly, unwatchable, foul baiting free throw bullshit is the best thing they've done as a league in recent memory.

The Harden Rule will be his legacy. He'll always have an asterisk to his points total. Every single one of us saw him abuse & exploit a terrible loophole of non-basketball foul baiting that the NBA refused to fix for years and years despite fan complaints. Better late than never.

When considering the greats of basketball and "rankings" of the best SGs:Remember Harden's fake foul baiting exploits, his complete disdain for defense, getting fat and loafing whenever he pleases.

We're all witnesses to that. Don't let his inflated stats define him

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u/Has_Recipes Nov 06 '21

He changed the game. What a legend.

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u/Xsy Jazz Nov 06 '21

What do you mean you never realized? Dude's been one of the worst players to watch for the past decade.

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u/JoshAllenIsTall Nov 06 '21

you never realized how much of hoe harden played like

I feel like I realized that and have hated watching him for years as a result.

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u/3entendre Warriors Nov 06 '21

This must be the worst call I've ever seen. Still can't believe it

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u/whataburger- Nov 06 '21

Harden does some of the weirdest things.

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u/Pooperism [GSW] David West Nov 06 '21

People did, there is a reason he was the head of the Third Reich

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u/p2datrizzle Tampa Bay Raptors Nov 06 '21

Hardensexuals can’t rationalize it anymore

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u/Snooke Nov 06 '21

I definitely realized. Him and Chris Paul were so hard to watch at Houston. Worst basketball team to watch in history.

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u/td139523 Rockets Nov 06 '21

Between the rule changes and Harden being fat and out of shape he’s been straight ass this year

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u/RantaPekka Nov 06 '21

You love to see it 😂

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u/SwmpySouthpw Rockets Nov 06 '21

Glad the rule change happened after we traded him lmao

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u/amedeoisme Knicks Nov 06 '21

You really glad? Got a bunch of late round picks

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u/TylerAdoresYou Rockets Nov 06 '21

He's playing back into shape after nursing that hamstring injury all summer long....

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u/jazzerhero [UTA] Donovan Mitchell Nov 06 '21

So many shaqtin a fool moments from Harden this game lol

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u/igetript Nov 06 '21

Seriously. I just saw the backcourt highlight a minute ago. I'm loving it

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u/EggplantBusiness Spurs Nov 06 '21

That's the point most people make if he wanted most of those foul baiting bullshit could be legitimate basket but no man wants his free throws

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u/Andrewski18 Jazz Nov 06 '21

This…does put a smile on my face

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u/Balls_of_Adamanthium Warriors Nov 06 '21 edited Nov 06 '21

How the fuck do some people see this garbage and still defend this guy? This shit is bad for the game

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u/ZlatanKabuto Nov 06 '21

BuT hE AvErAgEs 35PpG!!1!

So glad they stopped this.

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u/jereezy Mavericks Nov 06 '21

This shit is bad for the game

Always fucking has been

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u/grilledchorizopuseye Nov 06 '21

Nice call by the ref too see that, reffing in NBA is not a easy job. Make one mistake and 15,000 people instantly tell you that you suck and famous millionaires bitch at you all day.

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u/its_not_brian Celtics Nov 06 '21

doesn't even have to be a mistake. Make any call and you have people telling you that you suck

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u/comalicious Warriors Nov 06 '21

They should call these new rules the “remember when you pretended to be grossly overweight and acted wholly unprofessional so you could force a trade after we spent years giving you whistles you didn’t always deserve and helping create you into the star you are today, you ungrateful bastard, James Harden.” Rules. It’s been hilarious watching him get fucking stonewalled especially hard this year after averaging 473 free throws a game.

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u/Xsy Jazz Nov 06 '21

His days of ruining basketball are finally over.

The evil is defeated.

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u/EverybodyBuddy Lakers Nov 06 '21

This is our V-day.

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u/RantaPekka Nov 06 '21

Evil Harden:

Let's play hard honest basketball see who is more skilled wins.

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u/WhenItsHalfPastFive Warriors Nov 06 '21

fucking love this. what every fan has been asking for forever

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u/SpitBallar Nov 06 '21

Since I started watching basketball, roughly around the turn of the millenium... every year is has been "are the refs worse than they've ever been? I know we said this last year, but I swear it's gotten worse again."

This year, I really think is the first time we can all agree... the refs have gotten better.

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u/ideepthroatfood Nov 06 '21

Honest/serious bball question. If a defender has their arm pinned against the players rib like Jackson does there how can you get into a shooting motion with the new rule? You have to get your arm under or over theirs and then right into a shooting form?

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u/SlappyMcWaffles Knicks Nov 06 '21

So glad the NBA addressed the cheap fouls and foul hunting. It was seriously ruining the flow of the game. Watching this feels good not because I dislike Harden, but because I didn't like what the game was becoming because of foul hunting.

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u/faradofay Nov 06 '21

He's 40th in points per game this season.

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u/The_Social_Menace Trail Blazers Nov 06 '21

About fucking time!