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God of War - Features Trailer | PC Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQK_40a0XUY
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u/TheVideoGaymer Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

PC Requirements

  • Native 4K, unlocked framerate
  • Graphic and performance improvements,
  • 21:9 ultra-widescreen support.
  • Graphics settings featuring high-res shadows, better reflections,GTAO,SSDO etc
  • NVIDIA DLSS and Reflex support
  • Supports both DS4 and DualSense, other gamepads + fully customizable key bindings for KB+M

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u/Clearskky Dec 08 '21

Supports both DS4 and DualSense

Wonder if there will be any new haptic implementations.

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u/RaGe_Bone_2001 Dec 08 '21

Its a ps4 game, so my guess is no. Unless they update it to have them on ps5 as well

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u/Clearskky Dec 08 '21

I thought God of War was also going to receive a next gen patch for the PS5. Must've confused it with another title.

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u/devenbat Dec 08 '21

It got a patch to give it better performance so that's something

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u/RaGe_Bone_2001 Dec 08 '21

It got a 60fps patch but nothing else. Still looks and plays awesome!

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u/PaleontologistLanky Dec 08 '21

60FPS/4k (dynamic I believe but still) which is awesome. The 30fps on PS4 Pro wasn't great.

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u/sparoc3 Dec 09 '21

It's not dynamic, it's checkerboard 4k.

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u/dizorkmage Dec 09 '21

Here is your soup sir, our electric stove is on the fritz so it was heated on the gas stove, should taste the same.

"Pffft, yeah right there is a giant noticeable difference in texture if I sit here long enough analyzing it!"

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u/sparoc3 Dec 09 '21

They difference between checkerboard 4k and dynamic/native 4k is readily noticable. Checkerboard is a lot softer. Checkerboard 4k of RDR2 on Pro/PS5 is abysmal compared to that of native 4k on One X / Series X.

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u/aaronth07 i7-7700k, 1070 Ti, 16GB DDR4 Dec 09 '21

Hopefully. The zombie game (forgot its name) doesn't.

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u/TrickyElephant Dec 08 '21

ultrawide support, thank you so much!

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u/45intheshade Dec 09 '21

Seems to be standard with Sony's PC ports these days and Im cool with that.

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u/-TotallyRealName Dec 09 '21

Still they require community fixes since the cut-scenes are in 16:9. At least it needed a fix for horizon. But still it's surprising that sony cares about PC gamers so much, i didn't expect that, i expect simple ports with 3 graphical options.

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u/WD23 i9 10850k RTX 3080 Dec 08 '21

omg they added GTA Online to God of War!

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u/PF4ABG Dec 08 '21

Just for anyone who was wondering what "GTAO" actually is, it's "Ground-Truth Ambient Occlusion."

It's the best kind of AO because it has the coolest name.

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u/ChicaUltraVioleta Dec 08 '21

No no, it's clearly Gran Turismo Ambient Occlusion

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u/steak4take Dec 09 '21

No, come on. We all know it's God's Testes Ambient Occlusion.

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u/NegaDeath . Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

You can't handle the Ground-Truth!

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u/HarleyQuinn_RS R7 5800X | RTX 3080 | 32GB 3600Mhz | 1TB 5Gbps NVMe | 5TB HDD Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Not only does it have the coolest name, but GTAO is actually very good. A PS4 can formulate the ambient occlusion at 1080p, from a raytraced ground-truth reference, in half a millisecond. So it's not only highly accurate, but also very fast.

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u/samcuu R7 3700X / 16GB / GTX 1080Ti Dec 08 '21

Kratos about to fight Dr. Dre in the latest collaboration.

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u/Won_Doe Dec 08 '21

omg they added GTA Online to God of War!

"BOY......GET IN THE MF'IN CAR."

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u/Blackraider700 Dec 08 '21

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

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u/kofteburger Dec 08 '21

It just works.

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u/Ibiki Dec 08 '21

Almost feel bad I've played it a year ago on a 16:9 1080p 30fps version lol

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u/thesmithtopher Dec 08 '21

I’m borrowing a PS4 slim so decided to give it a go last week. Looks beautiful but I’m definitely gonna wait for PC.

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u/Johnnius_Maximus Dec 08 '21

Same, I caved a year and a half back and got myself a ps4 pro.

The framerate and blurriness wasn't the best but the game was so damn good I didn't care.

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u/ruetomancer Dec 09 '21

Man I've definitely seen worse on that base PS4. It's insane if you realize what the GPU equivalent is, even the pro.

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u/Ibiki Dec 08 '21

And the worst thing is, I'll buy Ps4/pro/ps5 again just to play Gow5 and sell it lol. Think I'll go with Pro for the best value/performance.

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u/b-macc Dec 08 '21

I played it on PS4 Pro and generally have a rule not to replay titles just because there are so many new games. I may have to break that rule just see how this looks at higher graphics settings and frame rates.

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u/Mods_and_Admins_Papi Dec 08 '21

I played it same time last year on ps4 pro. No regrets though as it was an amazing value for me @ 11$ with tax.

I think I will reserve my second play through when the sequel is also on PC in the future.

At this point I am keeping my PS5 for 2 reasons only

  • Exclusive marvel games (Spider-man and Wolverine)

  • Their availability, so I do not want to have remorse later.

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u/unverified-account Dec 09 '21

I think I’m going to replay this one (and that’s something that I never do)

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u/snostorm8 . Dec 08 '21

Only thing missing is an fov slider. I'd imagine there will be a mod but would be nice to not have to wait for that

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u/Archduke_Penguin Dec 08 '21

Idk i feel like the camera is one thing that makes this game so "cinematic" so to speak , i feel like its at a good setting .

then again once i see a screenshot of the FOV mod on an ultrawide im sure ill change my mind

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

Yeah adding FOV slider to GOW will take its cinematic feeling out of it. Also maybe the game is built around that FOV

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u/AL2009man Dec 09 '21

Other games already solve that problem by temporarily reverting to the default FOV for Cutscenes.

In fact: The recently released Halo Infinite already does that.

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u/sthegreT Dec 08 '21

I think it is because i remember in a gmtk video, he said that enemies behind kratos do not attack him because players cannot see whats behind him(tho ig that can be fixed easily)

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u/Comprehensive-Bet298 Dec 08 '21

On AMD'S website they had a picture of the god of war logo for fsr so it should be there on there as well(for all y'all non RTXers).

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u/ilmalocchio Dec 08 '21

Really wish they could just advertise the game without advertising for a components company as well.

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u/I_love_to_please Dec 08 '21

Thank you, this is music to my ears !

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u/Muz333 Dec 08 '21

I was about to moan about the lack of ultrawide support but they’ve got me covered.

Now I just have to moan about how I missed out on the first few games in the series.

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u/Heymelon Dec 08 '21

Now that's how you do it.

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u/badtaker22 Dec 08 '21

unlocked framerate hell yeah

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u/xxkachoxx Dec 08 '21

Nice. Looks like a lot of upgrades over the PS4 version.

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u/kinglamink Dec 08 '21

ULTRAWIDE BABYYYYYYYY

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u/bak3donh1gh Dec 09 '21

I hope it supports 32:9 as well.

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u/Johnysh Dec 08 '21

DLSS at the release? Great! And it's coming out in January? That's so close, hopefully I won't die until then.

I hope Ghost of Tsushima also gets announced, I'm more interested in that. And Bloodborne. But daddy Kratos is alright too.

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u/SolemnDemise . Dec 08 '21

Here's to hoping that the leaks are true and Ghost of Tsushima is really out in February.

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u/DeadBabyJuggler Dec 08 '21

That date seems awfully close. Not so sure about that but I would love for it to be true.

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u/bobbymack93 9900K, 3080ti, 32GB Ram Dec 08 '21

Maybe a surprise announcement at the game awards tomorrow?

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u/soupspin Dec 09 '21

Maybe, but how long ago was GoW announced for PC?

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u/Crimsonclaw111 Dec 09 '21

A very quick turnaround, announced in late October for a January release

https://blog.playstation.com/2021/10/20/god-of-war-2018-is-coming-to-pc/

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u/yourwhiteshadow Dec 08 '21

Man, I just played god of war on my PS5 last year. Great experience, but I would have waited for PC. But I guess I only paid $10. I got uncharted 4 yesterday in anticipation for the remastered versions.

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u/CorrectInfoBelow Dec 09 '21

hopefully I won't die until then

I think that all the time. We'll make it.

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u/redditrith Dec 09 '21

Read the last sentence on Master Chiefs voice. Feel safe now

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u/Sorlex Dec 09 '21

Biggest PC feature that isn't listed: Likely be able to adjust the fov a bit. The game was always a little too zoomed in. The biggest flaw in a lot of peoples opinion, as it made the combat worse.

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u/TypicalOutcome3 Dec 08 '21

nice, was waiting for Sony to release something good, its been a long time since i played God of War

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21 All-Seeing Upvote

Why do they always include “native 4K,” it’s like well duh. I could also play at 720p if I wanted too.

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u/Benemy Dec 08 '21

Ps5 version doesn't have native 4k, this does

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u/UpdatedMyGerbil Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Perhaps, but being able to render at whatever resolution you want (that your output supports) is pretty much a given for 3D PC games.

Barring some old titles with aspect ratio constraints and such, virtually every 3D PC game ever released has “native 4k support”. I was just playing a game from the 90s at 8k the other day. No mods or anything needed.

So it’s not really worth mentioning as a feature any more than “your keyboard will work!” or “it runs on windows 10/11!” or something.

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u/Benemy Dec 08 '21

It's purely a way to advertise the game and how it'll be better on PC. Sure it goes without saying that a strong enough PC can handle it but it's a selling point that it's native 4k vs checkerboarded.

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u/UpdatedMyGerbil Dec 08 '21

I'm not saying it isn't a selling point. I'm just saying it's less of a selling point for that specific game, and more about the platform itself.

You could come up with countless other such obvious PC selling points which apply to virtually all the games that run on it. But it's not common practice for publishers to spam all of those in their game-specific material. It is for this one, hence u/OwnWalk4693's reaction.

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u/Benemy Dec 08 '21

Could be that Sony is trying to appeal to PC gamers by saying it's native 4k since they just recently started putting some of their games on pc

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u/UpdatedMyGerbil Dec 08 '21

Yeah I mean I'm sure they've done their research and have a good reason for including it in their advertising material. It probably works. I don't blame them.

But it's still redundant and kind of dumb, so I felt OP's stance was entirely reasonable.

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u/Dogtag 9900K | 32GB | Intel UHD 630 (RIP 1080 Ti) | 3440x1440@120Hz Dec 08 '21

Could be similar to the RDR2 situation where the TAA implementation assumes 4k is the native res?

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u/UpdatedMyGerbil Dec 08 '21

Could be, I'm not familiar with that. Imo it's probably just a case of "buzzwords sell".

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u/homer_3 Dec 08 '21

Perhaps, but being able to render at whatever resolution you want (that your output supports) is pretty much a given for 3D PC games.

You would think so, but plenty of console ports have absurdly limited resolution options.

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u/atmus11 Dec 08 '21

A lot of people don't understand this, like the 30 and 60 fps situation. If your pc can handle it, it will work.

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u/Vichnaiev Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Except your 90s game doesn't have 4k textures in it. It's rendering it's extremely low resolution textures upscaled to 8k. Upscaled textures are VERY different than native ones.

Edit: I was wrong, it's "native" as opposed to checkerboarding used in PS5.

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u/UpdatedMyGerbil Dec 08 '21

If they're actually adding higher resolution textures than what they had in their console version then sure - that's a new feature worth mentioning. They should probably say so.

If it's just "you can choose the resolution of this game just like all your other games", it's not. If their PC release didn't have that, it would be a massive deficiency compared to it's peers. Having it is not something extra that's worth advertising, any more than some new smartphone model having the ability to make phone calls and browse the internet.

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u/Vichnaiev Dec 08 '21

I was wrong, the difference between PC and console is that in the PS5 version 4K is achieved using checkerboarding. That doesn't happen in the PC version, hence the "native" feature. Makes sense to me.

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u/UpdatedMyGerbil Dec 08 '21

Yes, 4K will be achieved natively without checkerboarding in the PC version.

Just like all your other 3D PC games. Just like all the smartphones you've ever had made calls and browsed the internet.

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u/sparoc3 Dec 09 '21

Yes but there isn't anything like checkboarding on PC, is there?

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u/WhiteWolfofRivia0914 Dec 08 '21

My guess is that it clarifies that you can set the native rendering resolution to 4K, as opposed to only having some sort of upscale/restructuring tech

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u/KrisKorona Ryzen 5800X | RTX 2070 Super | 16GB@3200MHz Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

I think it means that running the game at 4K won't cause any weird rendering issues or make the UI tiny, like it would in some older games

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u/Dr_Brule_FYH 5800x / RTX 3080 Dec 09 '21

You have to say that in a world where Japanese developers hardlock their games to 24fps 720p.

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u/abacabbmk Dec 09 '21

because they have to differentiate it from consoles. They already advertise their consoles as '4k'

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u/IsolatedHammer R7 3800x, 6900XT, 32gb 3600mhz Dec 08 '21

I hope it gets FidelityFX sometime.

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u/Christofin Dec 08 '21

It's already announced to get FSR so rest assured.

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u/MasterBaseV1 Dec 08 '21

I guess Sony releasing Horizon on GoG was a fluke.

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u/teh_geetard i5 6600k 3.50 Ghz | GTX 1070 | 16GB DDR4-3200 Dec 08 '21

Looks like it. :(

Still waiting for Days Gone to appear there...

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u/followedthelink Plagu3Born Dec 08 '21

I emailed Bend Studio about half a year ago asking about GOG, knowing I probably wouldn't get any confirmation, but I didn't even get a canned reply so idk if the request was heard. I've been wanting Days Gone for a long time, but part of it is that it hits close to home so I really want to buy on GOG so I can just have my little copy on my shelf.

I don't want to sound entitled, I definitely don't think I'm owed any piece of art (corporate funded or otherwise), but it's so bittersweet PC getting PlayStation games without them coming to GOG (especially older/last-gen titles). Part of why I buy for PC is with hopes that my game library is perpetual; if I wanted to buy another game I have to have keep an online account for (yes you can play Steam offline for periods of time, but SteamDRM still requires Steam and occasional phone-home) then I might as well have played the console version. If they bring a current title out on PC then I kind of get it, but I guess I see them bringing older titles to PC as an avenue of preservation of PlayStation titles, so to then require something like Steam (specifically with Steam DRM) feels like selling books without covers so they're not as durable or easily kept on a shelf but hey at least you can read the book now? But like reading once isn't the only reason I buy books?

And I'm not entirely anti-DRM. I have a huge steam library, and at the end of the day it's their product to do what they want with it. I certainly have become a lot more motivated, however, to only buy DRM-free when I can or when it is important to me for the value of the specific product/title.

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u/Stoibs Dec 09 '21

Please.. FOV options.. It's way too close vanilla and being able to pull back would likely get me to double dip on this.

Guess I'll wait post-launch to see if someone can mod it.

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u/Clyde-MacTavish Dec 08 '21

why can't they bring the one PlayStation exclusive I actually want - Bloodborne - to PC

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u/soaring_raccoon R5 5600x | RTX 3060 12GB Dec 08 '21

Sometimes I wonder if something happened to the game assets/source code, or if it has something to do with Sony's contract with FromSoft that makes it difficult to reopen the project.

Bloodborne never got a PS4 Pro update either, which in 2016, you'd think Bloodborne would be top-priority for that. Looking back, it sort of feels like Bloodborne got abandoned right after The Old Hunters DLC launched.

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u/Vorstar92 Dec 08 '21

I agree. Like, it's kind of...strange how Bloodborne has gotten no love since then. Like, even Sekiro got a 60FPS boost on PS5 and obviously has it's PC release. But Bloodborne, From's first new IP that was extremely widely praised becoming a lot of Soulslike fans favorite of the games, has seen no love. No PC port, no PS5 upgrade with AT THE LEAST a framerate boost.

It's very odd but as said below, there has been rumors of a bluepoint remaster, the same devs as the Demon's Souls remaster are remastering Bloodborne which I guess would justify it getting no love up to this point if there's an entire remaster being worked on.

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u/arex333 Ryzen 5600x/RTX 3080 Ti Dec 08 '21

The leaks about a bluepoint remaster have been corroborated by enough sources that I believe it's credible. However, I do think there's some truth to what you're saying about something contractual between Sony and From. It's basically the only PlayStation exclusive that hasn't received either a pro patch, or PS5 update. The game sold very well for a new IP, so it's clearly not an issue with not having an audience for it to be worth the work. My guess would be that From was only contractually obligated to release the game, 1 expansion, and a small time window of post launch updates. Anything more and they'd be working for free. That would line up with Sony having another studio (bluepoint) do a remaster instead of just a patch.

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u/shivam4321 Dec 08 '21

It wasn't even on nvidia leak so it isn't even in development probably. It never received any enhancement for ps4 pro and ps5. It seems like case of spaghetti code like red dead redemption 1 , any attempt to change something will break it

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u/DTGG Dec 08 '21

I highly doubt that's the case considering it uses the same engine as Dark Souls 3, Sekiro and Elden Ring which all worked great on PC. Imo it has more to do with the fact that it's a collaboration between Sony JP Studios, which doesn't exist anymore, and From Software who always have their hands busy making a new game. Think about it for a second, ever since Bloodborne released they've made Dark Souls 3, its DLCs, Déraciné, Sekiro and now Elden Ring. So unless Sony outsources the port to the new studio they bought to make PC ports, I don't see how the Bloodborne PS5 remaster/PC port can come about.

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u/BioStudent4817 Dec 08 '21

Fromsoft didn’t make Bloodborne?

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u/DTGG Dec 08 '21

They did, but it's a collaboration between them and Sony JP Studios.

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u/Thank_You_Love_You Dec 08 '21

Bloodborne would be an insta prepurchase for me. Even if it came with zero changes.

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u/alluballu 2070 Super | Ryzen 5 3600 | 16gb RAM Dec 08 '21

By that you mean the terrible frame pacing, chromatic abberration and a 30FPS lock?

/s

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u/Henrarzz Dec 08 '21

They didn’t even patch it for PS4 Pro, so at this moment I think they stopped caring about it

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u/sirgarballs Dec 09 '21

I've long since given up on that happening.

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u/Gyossaits Dec 08 '21

That's a weird way of spelling Intelligent Qube.

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u/Thank_You_Love_You Dec 08 '21

Wow that just gave me a blast of nostalgia. One of the rare times you rent a game as a kid that looks stupid and it ends up being amazing.

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u/TheVideoGaymer Dec 08 '21

That's something we all want.

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u/Edgaras1103 Dec 08 '21

contrary to popular belief on internet, bloodborne is not in high demand nor its an a high priority list to port to pc. They did not even care to patch it up to ps4 pro let alone ps5

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u/Clyde-MacTavish Dec 08 '21

I know, it's pretty disappointing for me nonetheless.

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u/Naekyr Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

Yep - despite being a game that anyone can see is one of the best ever made in the history of games, it did not move the number of units that other AAA Sony games have (because of the type of game it is; it's dark gothic Cthulhu horror with very difficult combat) so it will sadly be at the bottom of the pile for PC ports. It's also one of the more challenging ports because the game's code is tied to framerate so you can't just unlock the framerate, the game needs to be updated so it doesn't break above 30fps.

Bloodborne still sold well and was a financial success, its moved about 3 million units. But it's tiny compared to the God of wars, last of us, Spider-Man. Horizon zero Dawn, uncharted 4 type games that moved close to 20 million units each

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 11 '21

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u/Vorstar92 Dec 08 '21

May I ask then was Sekiro? Because if we're comparing the two only non-Souls games From has made, Sekiro and Bloodborne were both of them. One of those games saw a PC port as well as a 60FPS boost on PS5 (well, a locked 60FPS compared to the PS4 Pro).

Was Sekiro in such higher demand compared to Bloodborne? Bloodborne is a lot of Souls fans favorite game.

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u/Meowmeow69me Dec 09 '21

Sekiro was made by from soft but published by activision. It released on all consoles and pc originally. Unlike blood borne it didn’t break at 60 FPS on pc so that’s why they updated it. Blood borne actually needs to be fixed for it to work.

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u/treasonousmop Dec 09 '21

If Bloodborne is not a high demand title in this universe, then Demon's Souls must have sold 12 copies.
Yet Demon's Souls Remake was Sony's flagship title for their new consoles release.

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u/hoverhuskyy Dec 08 '21

Because they know that bloodborne fans are the most annoying people

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u/YasuhiroK Dec 08 '21

It is pretty obvious Sony wants to do something special with Bloodborne (remake or something else). I wouldn't expect it on PC for a long time

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u/alluballu 2070 Super | Ryzen 5 3600 | 16gb RAM Dec 08 '21

I wouldn't be so sure. Bloodborne got outsold by most of Sony's first psrty titles by quite a lot. Maybe we will hear about it after most of their heavy-hitters are ported to PC or remastered for PS5.

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u/YasuhiroK Dec 08 '21

It hasn't even gotten any treatment for the PS5, and of course Sony knows the high demand for it. That is what makes this whole thing interesting! Anyway, we'll see what happens.

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u/Meowmeow69me Dec 09 '21

I’m sure the original demon souls didn’t sell well either and they remastered it

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u/alluballu 2070 Super | Ryzen 5 3600 | 16gb RAM Dec 09 '21

Difference with Bloodborne and Demon's Souls was that the original was not playable on the PS5 while Bloodborne is.

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u/Clyde-MacTavish Dec 08 '21

Idk. Bloodborne is cool, but it's not really as big of a hit as our vocal fanbase actually makes it.

I'm still one of those vocal individuals, so hopefully. I want to play this game again but not as a slideshow 😭

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u/samcuu R7 3700X / 16GB / GTX 1080Ti Dec 08 '21

Since they can't even make it run well on PS4 and PS5, I assume it's just technically impossible at this point. Spaghetti code or whatever.

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u/dudemanguy301 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N369Dc Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

It’s nothing so fatal or unsolvable, the engines half rate V-sync has a rounding error, so the 30fps lock they have in place produces persistent stuttering.

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u/dudemanguy301 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N369Dc Dec 08 '21

They can’t even bring bloodborne to PRO let alone PS5 or PC.

Face it, both parties have abandoned the project, they released the game and DLC then washed their hands of it completely.

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u/ZeldaMaster32 R9 5900X | RTX 3080Ti | 16GB Dec 08 '21

Their recommended specs for 1080p30fps using original PS4 settings is a GTX 1060

Something seems wrong here. Either the PC version is unoptimized or their testing for specs sucks

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u/NerrionEU Dec 08 '21

Ported games are always heavier on PC, this is not surprising at all.

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u/DOOManiac Dec 09 '21

It could very well be that that’s just the oldest, slowest thing they feel like bothering to support.

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u/Johnysh Dec 08 '21

or just this spreadsheet is useless. can't even remember the last time I checked hw requirements. if I know I'll run the game, no matter the settings, I just play it and figure it out then. if I don't know it, I'll just wait for release and some youtube video benchmarks for the game.

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u/Rhed0x Dec 09 '21

PS4 games are optimized to death for one specific GPU. You can't go that deep on PC so PC games are usually slower on hardware thats comparable in terms of raw performance.

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u/EldenRingworm Dec 08 '21

Wondering now if getting a PS5 while already having an RTX 3080 was pointless, all PS5 exclusives will be on PC in a few years probably

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

This is a PS4 game from last gen. No idea if they will put PS5 game on PC until PS6 is out which wont be for another 7 years at least

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u/EldenRingworm Dec 08 '21

It'll definitely be sooner, this God of War isn't even 4 years old yet

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

But its also a last gen game. Sony uses exclusives to sell consoles so they may want to keep PS5 games exclusive until next gen and use them to sell PS5s

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u/panreg666 Dec 08 '21

I think it's gonna be 3-6 months wait for PS5 -> PC ports. One year at most.

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u/Squirrel09 Dec 08 '21

I can't find the source, but some PS higher-up once said (along the lines of...) that they'll consider releasing a game on PC once that game isn't a reason people are buying consoles. Which, I feel like is true for the current releases & announced releases.

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u/ARedditAccount532 Dec 08 '21

I remember that too. But 3-6 months, I think, is not long enough for lots of games.

I mean suppose Spiderman 3 releases in August for PS5. It definitely wont be released for PC before X-Mas for obvious reasons, and it won't be announced for PC before Christmas.

"So it will be announced/released in January," you say. Well the folks who own a PC and PS5 are going to go on twitter and complain that they just bought it for PS5.Sony doesn't want people to complain about buying their games.So they need to give more buffer. Lets say 6 more months. Now it is July/August again, and at this point I think that we will see an announcement. Sony may want to give it more time to reduce player annoyance, but at the earliest it will be a year before official announcement. Then they don't release for a few more months, letting the game generate it's own hype.
Would you agree?

Edits added for clarification.

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u/Squirrel09 Dec 08 '21

I honestly don't think we'll see any Sony 1st party games released on PC for a minimum of 1 year (at least in the foreseeable future) and those would be the "smaller" and/or "less of a cornerstone" games. Sackboy, Returnal, Demon Souls, etc. After that, they'll release games on PC before their next instalment comes out to generate hype (H:ZD, GoW).

Days gone, I wouldn't categorize as a "Cornerstone" PS game. It's not bad, but it didn't solidify itself as a "Must have PS Exclusive" like Spiderman, GoW, or Horizon.

Obviously, this leaves Uncharted as the odd one out. But it's also half a decade old at this point.

I can see Spiderman and Miles Morales releasing in late 2022 or early 2023 before Spiderman 2 releases in 2023.

I think the average will be between 2-4 years before a 1st party exclusive PS5 game releases on PC.

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u/panreg666 Dec 08 '21

So you think they bought top tier PC porting studio like Nixxes to port 4-5 years old games at the end of the generation? They also said they're gonna buy even more PC oriented port devs. Nah dude, one year tops.

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u/Squirrel09 Dec 08 '21

I mean, my 2-4 year average guess might be a little pessimistic, but outside of studio purchases and changing their PC publishing from "mobile" to "PC" they've shown little that they're interested releasing PC ports shortly after release. There's also a vast catalog of great PS4 games that people are begging for that will bridge the gap.

I don't think a 4-5 year wait will be the norm. But with uncharted 4, it's proven that that length of wait is possible.

In my opinion, expecting Horizon forbidden west to release on PC by Feb 18, 2023 is as optimistic as expecting it to release on PC by 2026 is pessimistic.

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u/ARedditAccount532 Dec 09 '21

Mmm, I disagree.

A 2-3 year old game that is a banger like GoW or Spiderman is still a banger, and PC folks will still buy it at that age. I believe a significant number of players will double dip and buy it a 2nd time if they played it in OG hardware, because it's a good game and looked even better then it used to. At 1 year you have fewer double dippers, all the PC gamers who are buying it anyway, and fewer folks buying it for the PS5, because they "will just buy it on PC at some point." Of those, there is a number of people who won't even buy as PS5, which is Sony's other revenue stream.

So, along with my previous comment, I think it very understandable if these games don't come out until 2-3 years.

Remember, if Sony wanted to they could go the XBox route and release their first party games day 1 on XBox and PC. Like you said, they have the porting companies to do it. But they don't. I think it is because they want to pick up every potential dollar on the table.

That's just my opinion though.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

I think that is way too optimistic honestly and there isnt really a reason to think it will be that short based off what they have said

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u/GalacticRelic Dec 08 '21

I mean Colin Moriarty, a guy who has done journalistic work on Playstation through out the past and has run a Playstation podcast for years seems to think eventually these will just be day and date launch pc releases sooner or later, just his opinion but if even he thinks that with all of his inside knowledge on how the company runs then I have can definitley see it too. I think it's just where the markets headed. It sounds crazy now but so did any of this coming to pc at all in the first place.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

Colin says tons of things. Just sounds like speculation

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u/GalacticRelic Dec 08 '21

Maybe my comment wasn't clear. The point is it was speculation not a claim. I'm merely saying with how intimately he knows that company if he thinks that then so do I.

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u/shivam4321 Dec 08 '21

Horizon forbidden west , demon souls , returnal , sackboy are all on nvidia leak , and leak has had 100% accuracy till now , except if whole game was cancelled mid development

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u/atmus11 Dec 08 '21

"Canceled mid development"

Sony looking at those bank statements......

Doubt lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

And it doesn't say when any of them are releasing

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u/DTGG Dec 08 '21

It doesn't matter, if you play the patient game you'll get it eventually on PC. I bought a PS4 just for Bloodborne and Persona 5 back then, but I'm never buying a console again in my life now that Sony are also porting their games to PC. If I have to wait 2+ years to play a PS5 exclusive then I'll wait, I really don't care.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

Sure nothing wrong with that just dont expect them to come for years after they stopped selling on PS5

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u/shivam4321 Dec 08 '21

they were nvidia leak means they are under development and used nvidia resources to do testings , I highly doubts it will take 4-5 years to arrive on pc .

sackboy already has hidden steam page

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u/vjayzz Dec 08 '21

If its a major system seller, it will most likely take a while to come to PC. Its only when the sales die down a bit is when PC gets a bite of the cake.

GoW's taken nearly 4 years and the timing is so that it makes you go and buy a PS5 to play the sequel. Similar to when HZD on PC was announced. Now buy a console to play Forbidden West. It being on the GeForce Now list doesn't guarantee a timeline. If it doesn't sell well(which I doubt), then we could see it sooner or they could shelve it and drop it later down the line.

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u/Ryokupo Dec 08 '21

It does actually. Horizon 2 is listed for September next year.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

I highly doubt Horizon will be there in September but we will see I guess.

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u/Solemnity_12 i7-11700k | RTX 3070 FE | 32GB 3600 CL14 | 6 TB storage Dec 08 '21

Hey I remember seeing that too, but I forgot to save a screenshot of it. Do you still have a link to those “supposed” release dates?

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u/Ryokupo Dec 08 '21

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u/Solemnity_12 i7-11700k | RTX 3070 FE | 32GB 3600 CL14 | 6 TB storage Dec 08 '21

Thanks!

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u/Returning_Video_Tape Dec 08 '21

Ragnorak is also a PS4 game. Unless the PC version of 2028 horrifically fails financially, you can count on Ragnorak on PC in a few years.

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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '21

Its both a PS4 and PS5 game and is being used to sell PS5s.

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u/badtaker22 Dec 08 '21

it will be sooner

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u/Yvese 3900X , ASUS C6H, 32GB 3600CL16 G.Skill Ripjaws, RTX 3080 Dec 08 '21

I have both as well and the PS5 was worth it. Don't see how it was pointless unless you'd rather wait years to play these games.

This gen has been pretty great since pretty much every game has had a 60 fps option and load times are quick. Both of those being my biggest issues with consoles in the previous gen.

The only problem I have with the PS5 is the game prices. $70 is stupid and is why I feel Xbox has won this gen for me purely on the insane value of Game Pass.

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u/PiersPlays Dec 08 '21

Don't see how it was pointless unless you'd rather wait years to play these games.

I'll be very happily playing God of War for the first time in 2024 when it's on sale on Steam.

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u/Darkone539 Dec 08 '21

Wondering now if getting a PS5 while already having an RTX 3080 was pointless, all PS5 exclusives will be on PC in a few years probably

To a point, yes it was. Sony have already said all their titles will be coming with "2 years after being a good time". My friends are on PS so it's worth it for me, but it's never been necessary to own a PS, and this generation it's hardly worth it at all for a PC gamer.

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u/aidsfarts Dec 08 '21

It looks like Ratchet and Clank is the only big PS5 game that isnt scheduled for a pc port.

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u/ItsMeSlinky Ryzen5 3600X, X570 Aorus mITX, EVGA RTX 3060 Ti, 32GB 3200 Dec 08 '21

Until DirectStorage is viable on Windows, that game is likely an impossible port. It’s using all of the PS5’s storage APIs and channels to handle asset loading/streaming, and most PC gamers don’t have an SSD and main board capable of 5.5 GB/s raw.

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u/Beavers4beer 5800X | RTX 3060 Dec 09 '21

I think Digital Foundry already debunked that and tested it with a much slower drive with almost no difference.

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u/ItsMeSlinky Ryzen5 3600X, X570 Aorus mITX, EVGA RTX 3060 Ti, 32GB 3200 Dec 09 '21

The drive is only one piece of the chain. The PS5 has a custom IO controller, custom dedicated processors for almost instant compression/decompression, and something like twelve data lanes when the average PC has like four.

All of that functionality would have to be offloaded to the CPU, and that would slow everything down without serious overhaul of the original source code.

I know it’s super unpopular with PC gamers to accept this, but the PS5 isn’t just a 3800X with a 6700 XT. There’s way more custom shit under the skin, almost to the level of the PS3.

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u/TheAlchemlst Dec 08 '21

Good luck to all you sick fuckos daring Give Me God of War difficulty. Enjoy.

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u/d0m1n4t0r i9 9900k + 3090 SUPRIM X Dec 08 '21

32:9?

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u/LBCuber Dec 09 '21

they are literally doing everything right holy shit

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u/Mordy83 Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21

My only real ask is Raw Input for the mouse.

Not whatever it was like on Horizon Zero Dawn on PC. I can't quite describe what it is, but something's off with it.

Wasn't game breaking or anything, it just felt... weird.

If turning the camera around feels like I'm looking through binoculars or some weird swivel motion, I'll be disappointed, but probably still play it anyways.

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u/PsYcHoSeAn Dec 08 '21

Guess I love Sony now

I wonder how much it takes for them to bring Miles Morales to the PC next...

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u/RedIndianRobin Dec 08 '21

I wonder how much it takes for them to bring Miles Morales to the PC next...

Spiderman games aren't on the Geforce leak so don't expect it anytime soon. I think it's the only exclusive that will stay exclusive, besides Bloodborne that is.

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u/PsYcHoSeAn Dec 08 '21

That's fine I'm gonne stay naive and keep my hopes.

2 or 3 years from now would still be fine.

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u/Ablj Dec 08 '21

They will bring exclusives that have ran their course that are not selling as much. Both Spider-Man games still sell almost like GTA V on PS.

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u/atmus11 Dec 08 '21

Guess im off from life January 14. Late Xmas present, I love it.

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u/OK_Opinions 5600X / 3080 FTW3 ULTRA / 16G DDR4 3600 Dec 08 '21

I played this on my ps5 after the upgrade patch came. Great game. Can't say I'll pay for it again on steam because what's the point but anyone who hasn't played it should absolutely do so

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u/Spyhop Dec 08 '21

Shut up and take my money.

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u/Kfev1026 Dec 08 '21

Where’s the love for FSR support.

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u/ItsMeSlinky Ryzen5 3600X, X570 Aorus mITX, EVGA RTX 3060 Ti, 32GB 3200 Dec 08 '21

It has it

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u/TheWolfofBinance i7 8700k / RTX 3080 Dec 08 '21

Any chance of Gran Turismo 7 coming on PC?

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u/Ryokupo Dec 08 '21

Well it was in the Nvidia leak. Soo.. I'd say there's a pretty good chance.

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u/PhilBebb Dec 08 '21

At this rate Sony is due to put out a better game on PC than Microsoft with Halo Infiite (at least as it stands)

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u/GreenKumara Dec 08 '21

So, basic features that should be expected on PC.

I hope it runs well.

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u/Geosgaeno Dec 08 '21

I found the game to be extremely boring compared to the classic ones

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u/IGFXH2077 . Dec 08 '21

Rip my amd gpu

No FSR :(

My 4gb gpu won't run this well

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u/Kashinoda Dec 08 '21

AMD FIDELITYFX SUPER RESOLUTION We are also happy to support AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) so our players with AMD GPUs can take advantage of their visual enhancement technology!

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u/IGFXH2077 . Dec 08 '21

Well it wasn't listed in the post so...

Didn't click because i was using lte data

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u/tbo1992 Dec 08 '21

Is there enough aiming in God Of War to prefer playing with KB+M over DualSense? Marvel's Avengers was another that I feel didn't benefit enough from KB+M and was actually preferable on controller.

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u/Notarussianbot2020 Dec 08 '21

Nah there's basically no aiming involved.

HZD is the game KB+M makes much easier.

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u/NerrionEU Dec 08 '21 edited Dec 08 '21

In games like these it depends on your preference, I will likely be using KB+M because my reactions are faster like that.

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u/tbo1992 Dec 08 '21

Gotcha. I'm newly back on PC after years of playing on consoles, so I'm still a little more comfortable on the controller.

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u/BloodyLlama Dec 08 '21

Depends on your build but the game design and the auto aim work well enough that I'll play with a controller while sitting on my couch.

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u/GamingRobioto Dec 08 '21

Will be all over this when it's 50% off, not keen on spending £40 on it again after playing so much of the PS4 version.

Looks absolutely incredible, such a fantastic must play game

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u/NapperNeo 5600x | 3070ti Dec 08 '21

i JUST finished this (again) on ps5. can't wait to play through on pc.

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u/devildog1141 Dec 08 '21

To everyone who didn’t get to play on PlayStation, enjoy the ride :).

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u/TheBigSm0ke i5 10600k | RTX 3080 Dec 08 '21

No FOV slider is unfortunately a no buy for me. I tried playing this on my PS4 Pro and the FOV was so close it was unplayable.

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u/DOOManiac Dec 09 '21

I never played any God of War past the 2nd one. I assume this one is easy to pick up w/o knowing the plot of whatever came in between?

(I am aware that GOW3 TLDR is he just kills everyone)

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u/eagles310 Dec 09 '21

Need an FOV slider especially for Ultrawide