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u/SLYeeter May 28 '22 edited 29d ago Silver

That's why I keep all my old used up gift credit card with a dollar or so left on em. No way are they gunna have access to the main card, they are stuck with the leftovers, it's what they deserve.

Edit: Seems I'm still living in the past and old tricks don't work as well anymore, highly recommend Privacy.com though I didn't know it existed until now.

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u/purple00haze May 28 '22

dude that’s so fucking smart damn

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u/coolmanjack May 28 '22 Helpful

privacy.com is the way to do this without having to have an old visa card

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u/not-a-painting May 28 '22

Wow holy shit this is actually really cool. I'm gonna troll through my subscriptions later and cap them. Thank you. If i had an award to give I would, but I don't so you get this comment.

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u/EeziPZ May 28 '22

My bank let's me create virtual cards in the app. Doesn't seem like a thing in the US though.

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u/Cat_Marshal May 28 '22

Depends on the card, some support it here too.

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u/moonsun1987 29d ago

Which ones? Also can't they still send me to collections?

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u/RedditIsNeat0 29d ago

Tough to do if they don't know your address or your social security number.

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u/moonsun1987 29d ago

Oh yeah I was thinking like a fitness center or something like Coinbase that now require us to give them driving license photo.

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u/Gr8FullDan 29d ago

I think capital one offers this feature, there are certainly several out there available in the USA.

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u/theprodigy2 May 28 '22

That’s amazing. Thank you!!! 🥇🏅🎖

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u/EvilEpicPanda May 28 '22

Yeah, absolutely love privacy.com, easily shop online and not give out all your details if you don't want to. I've even had to do charge backs through them and they handled it great.

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u/BakaFame 29d ago

Still US only?

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u/Dan_The_Man777 Mah man! 29d ago

Yeah

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u/bogdan5844 May 28 '22

I just use revolut's one time card. They get the authorization and boom - no more card

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u/Traiklin 29d ago

Some apps won't let you use it.

Definitely won't use them if they won't even allow that.

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u/ankanamoon 29d ago

Those jerks need to come to Canada

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u/Chris-The-Lucario 29d ago

Is there a website that works in europe? They don't allow me to register

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u/TheRumpelForeskin 29d ago

Revolut, I use it all the time.

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u/Dan_The_Man777 Mah man! 29d ago

US only though...

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u/captainfrijoles 29d ago

I saw a YouTube video of a guy that scams scammers and he was plugging this company in the video I thought it was a good idea but I never thought of using it in this application. Genius

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NAIL_CLIP May 28 '22

A lot of companies know it’s a gift card with $1 so it won’t work.

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u/jarfil Peace you, and peace you! May 28 '22

Some banks let you create virtual credit cards with a spending limit. Like, you want my credit card number? Sure, here you go! Spending limit $0.01.

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u/RichestMangInBabylon 29d ago

Which bank? I’ve used a few major banks including online only ones, and that feature has always been reserved for business accounts if it even exists.

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u/JazzFestFreak 29d ago

Hey, yo, RichestMangInBabylon. Don't even trip about your credit card info, dawg. I got your info here.

Capital One and Bank of America both offer virtual cards (i use cap one and it is awesome). there is a browser extension that once installed, detects the credit card form, pops up, and offers to give you a different card number, exp date, and 3 digit number. Even better, it ties that card to that online vendor only. EVEN MUCH BETTER...... you can specify when the card will no longer be valid with that vendor. So I will put the card 72 hours to be invalid after today's date.

All for free for being a user of Cap One.

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u/Tiny-Gate-5361 29d ago

Yeah, and then some companies know they are virtual and won't accept.

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u/j_z5 May 28 '22

Just Google credit card generator. It will generate a fake name and number but the number correlates to the databases they use so it works.

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u/mostmodsareshit77 May 28 '22

Or just use any other better search like Bing or duckduckgo. googol sucks and was never any good.

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u/Blinkroot 29d ago

When someone tells you to “Google something” they’re not implying you must use Google. It’s a more understandable way of saying “use a search engine”.

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u/Skyline_BNR34 29d ago

I remember the Ask Jeeves days.

Good times.

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u/j_z5 May 28 '22

The first result is good though just googled it.

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u/YouMeAndDannyP May 28 '22

No wonder you aren't having luck with that search engine. I'm not really sure what googol is.

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u/Cranky_Kong 29d ago

Point of order, google was pretty good back when it still allowed boolean operators and didn't use that fuckdamn fuzzy matching to reduce zero result queries, but that ship sailed long ago.

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u/OstrichFarm- 29d ago

What on earth are you talking about? Google, from a technology point of view, is far superior to duckduckgo or bing.

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u/Certain_Chain 29d ago

The only thing I'll say in Bing's defense is that it's better for porn.

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u/OstrichFarm- 29d ago

You've piqued my interest

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u/kshep9 29d ago

Til people still use search engines for porn

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u/Certain_Chain 29d ago

What the Hell else am I supposed to use?

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u/JePPeLit 29d ago

You're supposed to know all the porn on the internet like u/kshep9

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u/kshep9 29d ago

Lol ? Wasn’t trying to be elitist with porn. I was legitimately surprised. Reddit has more than enough porn to keep me covered. Otherwise there’s pornhub or spankbang. Using a search engine for porn just seems like it would lead you to a lot of bullshit to sift through.

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u/crypto_knight1 May 28 '22

Privacy . Com has a free plan to create virtual cards.

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u/MessyRoom May 28 '22

Nothing in life is free.

I wonder how they use my bank and personal info. I’m sus about free products, specially when I have to enter such delicate information

😕😕

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u/AtariDump 29d ago

They make money off the merchants who run the card (just like the CC companies do).

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u/Cat_Marshal May 28 '22

They get paid by your needs outgrowing the free plan and you pay them for the advanced features. It is not uncommon to off a limited free tier without additional strings attached.

That being said, the one time I tried using privacy.com it didn’t work because the card shows up as a prepaid card and most places trying to scam you already check for that.

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u/JazzFestFreak 29d ago

check out virtual card by using capital one or bank of America. i use cap one.... and it is amazing. it is "free" ( i think ) because of the security using the cards brings. If an online vendor gets my virtual card, cap one has it tied to that vendor only. no other vendor can use the card. (in event the vendor is hacked) i love it. and being able to say it can no longer be used by that vendor after 10 days from today is empowering.

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u/StuartP9 May 28 '22

Hey that's a good idea. I've still got an old visa gift card that hasn't expired yet. Now I know what to use for all these "free" offers.

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u/spoontraveler May 28 '22

Give this man an award

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u/Cdf12345 29d ago

The privacy.com website and app let you setup temporary cards that have limits you set or close after 1 use.

I set up cards with $1 tots limits all the time. You link it with a bank account so that’s how transactions go through.

It’s nice too because you can set limits for every service you use and catch sneaky price increases.

Anyways, I think you get an extra $5 if you use someone’s link from their app, if you don’t have one, here’s mine.

https://privacy.com/join/ZG5EK

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u/DigitalSteven1 May 28 '22

You could just create a virtual card with a specific spending limit.

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u/xTheatreTechie 29d ago

I thought I was the only one who did this. I have a stack of 4 used up ones from Christmases and birthdays I keep in my wallet for this exact reason.

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u/s33ek 29d ago

Two of my CC providers allow me to have a separate virtual card number. I can instantly lock them. So I unlock them, enter the number, and then relock them.

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u/HotLipsHouIihan May 28 '22

I have tried multiple times to add a Visa Vanilla Gift Card with leftover balance to my iTunes account so I can use all my free trials… no such luck

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NAIL_CLIP May 28 '22

Exactly. It sounds like a good idea and they got loads of karma for it, but in practice it just doesn’t work.

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u/mister_flibble 29d ago

I've done this as well; it still works sometimes, just not everywhere these days. Really depends on the site and definitely still worth trying if you happen to have an old card on hand. Worked great basically everywhere like 10+ years ago, though, so more just old advice than straight up bad advice.

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u/Agarwel May 28 '22

I love that my bank (not from US so useless for most of you) started offering virtual cards in the online banking. You click a button, it will create virtual card that is valid for one single payment (or one hour if you dont use it) and then it is deleted. Absolutelly great for such purchses.

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u/caldera 29d ago

I suspect this works better than the privacy.com or gift card suggestion since it won’t show up as a pre-paid card.

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u/Foodnoobie 29d ago

The disposable credit cards i can buy where i live, charge $2 a month. So if i don't spend all the money fast, it will be reduced to zero over time.

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u/baineschile 29d ago

There's an app called Privacy that gives real credit (gift) card numbers that you decide a limit to.

It's one of the most helpful apps ever.

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u/hanimal16 29d ago

It’s how I got that Worldwide Subscription on ancestry.com.

Although they’ve caught on and anything you put in your tree (photos, newspaper articles, etc) while the premium subscription was active is no longer visible once the account goes back to basic.

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u/0-100 May 28 '22

Every damn time.

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u/DingDong_Dongguan May 28 '22

Privacy.com works for me. But even then I usually nope the fuck out of it.

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u/OssotSromo 29d ago

So much this. I create a merchant locked single use card. I set the max to $2. Start the trial. Cancel the card. Never look back.

Abcmouse attempts to bill me every 4 days since the start of covid. When I log into my account to cancel it, it just tries to get me to activate. But literally every 4 days they attempt to charge a credit card that's been dead for 2 years. Every. Four. Days.

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u/IronyYouSeek May 28 '22

What about when they test it by quickly charging $1 and reversing? Does it work still? I keep forgetting to cancel and getting in trouble

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u/Incandescent_Lass May 28 '22

Yes it works because the gift cards are still real cards connected to real money in an account. And if they take the money or scam you or whatever, you only lose the small amount you put in, like $5 total. Then you can just get a new card whenever.

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u/IronyYouSeek 28d ago

What? The person said to use a fake card number from a website

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u/armyofant May 28 '22

Accurate

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u/stonerthoughtss May 28 '22

If you buy the free trial, immediately remove the subscription from your card and you’ll still have the free trial

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u/[deleted] May 28 '22 edited 23d ago

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u/dragonspeeddraco May 28 '22

At least in the US, it's supposed to be illegal.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '22 edited 22d ago

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u/boombotser 29d ago

Cancel it and at the bottom of your subscription it’ll say “this trial will expire on xx/xx/xxxx” that message is just like a scare tactic

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u/wolf9786 29d ago

Really? Is that a newer law? I've had this happen tons of times. Even for a paid subscription they will try to cancel the rest if you try to remove your card early

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u/dragonspeeddraco 29d ago

Just to confirm, when you actually did cancel your subscription, did it then remove the rest of your free trial period?

I've only had it happen once with Hello-Fresh, but otherwise, on a huge range of popular services, I've always been told after I've removed my card "your benefits/trial/subscription will end on Month, Day, Year"

They certainly will do everything to make it look like that's not the case, but there is supposed to be a legal obligation.

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u/Neth110 May 28 '22

Nope, most sites will send you through multiple confirmation boxes of "if you remove your credit card, you are CANCELLING YOUR TRIAL. Are you SURE you want to CANCEL YOUR FREE TRIAL?"

Just keep clicking "Yes," and surprise surprise, it doesn't cancel your trial. It just cancels the renewal. Amazon is one of the best examples of this.

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u/blitzlurker 100 seasons 29d ago

Had to go through like 5 pages of “wait, are you sure you want to leave Amazon?” “HEY WAIT! Did you know you had these benefits” “STOP! what is the reason you are doing this?”

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u/selftitleddebutalbum 29d ago

Set a reminder on your phone. It's really not that difficult, y'all.

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u/different_tan May 28 '22

Duolingo charged me a whole YEAR without warning at the end of my trial, thankfully apple immediately got it back for me.

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee 29d ago

You can pay for Duolingo?

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u/notchoosingone May 28 '22

Thanks for reminding me, I've got a Kindle Unlimited "free" 60-day that's about to expire.

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u/bitterbuffaloheart 29d ago

How was the book selection on unlimited? I get mine from the library but sometimes it’s a long wait for popular books

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u/shouldbebabysitting 29d ago

Bad. Had it for a year during Covid.

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u/aries0688 May 28 '22

Yea I dip the minute they ask me for anything, same way I do at work.

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u/danglesnipes_19 29d ago

“We won’t ChaRgE AnYtHiNg UnTil AfTeR The tRiAl” headass.

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u/Illbsure May 28 '22

You can create a single use card for this at Privacy.com been a game changer for me.

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u/FortySacks May 28 '22

I’ve been doing this for everything I buy online lately. Incredibly useful, and it’s so nice to not have to remember to cancel every subscription. Not only has it saved me money, but it just frees up that part of my brain to worry about other ridiculous shit lol

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u/Illbsure 29d ago

Also, you can use any name and address you want and choose how it comes through on your bill.

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u/ladies-sendMe-nudes May 28 '22

not everyone's from the US amigo

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u/Illbsure 29d ago

My bad, I’ll send nudes next time.

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u/midgetforce2k May 28 '22

About 50% of the people on Reddit are.

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u/brfooky 29d ago

Yeah, and about 50% of the people on Reddit aren't.

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee 29d ago

But what about the third 50%?

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u/user_bits 29d ago

Reddit is a U.S. website.

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u/super_asshat 29d ago

Perhaps they should build a wall to not let those pesky Mexicans and Europeans in…

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u/boebrow May 28 '22

This always pisses me off so much! You’d think their business plan is retaining people by showing how awesome their product is, but no… the only way they turn a profit is because of all the stupid fucking people who forgot what kind of ‘free’ shit they signed up to…

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u/Xstream3 May 28 '22

It's to stop people making multiple free accounts. Whats the big deal about signing up with a cc and then trying it and then if it sucks you cancel when you decide its not worth the money?

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u/boebrow May 28 '22

Because there aren’t other ways to avoid that? Use a phone number or something. Plenty of services out there that have either fake cc or credit cards without a balance. They’re just hoping you sign up and try it once or twice and then a month later, you forget all about it. Or they just make it a pain in the ass to cancel…

You are aware that most countries out there do not revolve completely around credit cards right? There are plenty of services where none is needed! Heck the sole reason I have a credit card is because there is literally no other way to be able to use some US based services and nothing else. I think people have no idea how dumb that whole system really is!

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u/Xstream3 May 28 '22

People also hate giving out their phone number and can use temporary phone numbers online so that doesnt fix it. There's a reason why pretty much every subscription service does it that way. If people are dumb enough to forget to cancel something that will cost them money then that's their problem

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u/Nemeryck May 28 '22

"If people are dumb enough..." almost seems like thats the point of y'all wanting the CC info to begin with. Hence the whole we don't wanna give you shit. A free trial should be free, not "free but it you forget, fuck you" nah, fuck YOU.

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u/esreveReverse 29d ago

I refund any user who is dissatisfied with their subscription or forgot to cancel their free trial. Hell my free trial is for 1 week and I'll still refund people for like 3 full months of they just tell me they forgot to cancel.

There's a difference between businesses that provide a good product and believe in it, versus scammy businesses hoping that you forget to cancel.

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u/dan1101 29d ago

That might be part of it but the automatic charging at the end of the trial is just a greedy trap and nothing more.

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u/Xstream3 29d ago

Why? The user chose to use it for free and be charged at the end of the trial if they don't cancel. When else would they be charged? After they go back to the service and sign up with a different email over and over and never pay for it?

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u/dan1101 29d ago

You should be able to sign up for a trial and not have it automatically start charging you at the end of the trial.

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u/Xstream3 29d ago

If you choose to start a trial and know you'll be charged at the end of it then it's your responsibility to cancel if you dont want to pay for it. Otherwise people will just use an endless amount of different emails to keep using it for free

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u/Skyline_BNR34 29d ago

They only do it because most people forget to cancel it beforehand.

But the gift card thing is what you should do.

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u/bmxerer 29d ago

Exactly what happened after I downloaded and opened the blossom app this morning. I'll just Google how much water my plants need for free, thanks.

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u/DarthMagnus88 29d ago

Same with jobs. I apply on indeed fill out the entire application. "Ok now you just need to create a profile" nope no thanks. I don't want to spend even a minute creating a profile to apply at your shitty fucking job you posted on indeed. Just for them to sell the data off anyways.

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u/smikkelbaars May 28 '22

I got revolut credit card, you can make unlimited virtual credit cards with it

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u/TannishMegapode May 28 '22

Some of the ebst advice I ever got was to always keep one of those Visa or Amex gift cards with one cent on them for this very reasn. When it comes time to actually charge you, the charge will be declined because there's not sufficient funds, but if there's a check to see if the card is active it'll pass.

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u/sullivanaaron May 28 '22

Or use a limited credit crd that‘ll just be declined when they try to charge you. I use privacy . Com

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u/i-InFcTd May 28 '22

I put an empty card

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u/ZoleeKing May 28 '22

Can you use Revolut's disposable one use virtual card for stuff like this? Asking for a friend.

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u/ExjwReborn May 28 '22

Those bastards love to hope you’ll forget about auto-renew.

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u/Gaia_Knight2600 May 28 '22

i cant be the only one who hates constantly getting asked if i want to try their free trial? i pick no a thousand times, yet they want to ask again and again. these people need lessons on consent.

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u/psivenn 29d ago

Plus lots of places will continue to spam you with free trial offers even when they should have a record in their system that you already used one, are already a member, or are otherwise ineligible...

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u/Matcha_Bubble_Tea 29d ago

Or the make a new account with your email or iTunes or connect your Google account bs.

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u/jenjerx73 29d ago

Investors meeting:

we have great amount of downloads!

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u/baineschile 29d ago

There's an app called Privacy that gives real credit (gift) card numbers that you decide a limit to.

It's one of the most helpful apps ever.

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u/mylo2202 29d ago

Onlyfans in a nutshell

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u/Physical_Pressure_27 29d ago

Me all the time!

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u/overzeetop 29d ago

CapOne -> UniqueNumber -> AutoLock tomorrow

As a card issuer they're so-so, but for the ability to generate (auto-gen with the Eno browser extension in, at least, chrome) a merchant-specific card number and put an auto-lock date on that card they're worth having. Between that and owning a domain with infinite emails that drop into my catch-all account, it's free trials forever.

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u/Hell_Knight54 29d ago

Actually I do it then immediately just cancel the subscription right there and then. Clear up my schedule, get the free month/week/day then let it go.

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u/DuduMaroja 29d ago

Create q virtual card just for this service with a balance less then needed to renew the service so it will be canceled automatically

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u/d_101 29d ago

Most of the time you can cancel the subscription right away and still keep the trial.

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u/LuckyDoge21 29d ago

Every time

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u/Rental_Car 29d ago

Privacy.com

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u/FreeFalling369 C137 29d ago

I just use an empty prepaid card

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u/Hakim_Bey May 28 '22

Intentional friction works really well though. As a developer i don't want to waste my effort on your cheap ass who's never going to convert.

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u/macstanislaus 29d ago

I hope you arent a cheap ass and donate to stuff you use for free daily. The Apache software foundation for example. Or are those developers worth less than you?

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u/Hakim_Bey 29d ago

I do much better than that, i open-source all my side projects, and contribute to other people's projects within my capabilities. Do you ?

Your comment is totally irrelevant to the conversation at hand. All i'm saying is as a developer doing your day job, it is actually a smart move to ask for a credit card before the trial. This kind of meme implies that haha the dev is punished and loses one user but i can tell you the dev is fucking relieved to see you go. If a user can't commit enough to your product to enter their cc number for 0$, what's the probability they'll end up converting to a paying customer down the road ? Free users are worthless they just use up resources and tech support's attention.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

How would you feel about an alternative in the middle? Qualify users by requiring proof of ability to pay but require explicit confirmation to complete purchase?

The shitty reality is the current zero trial with automatic purchase is 100% designed with the hope the user forgets about it and gets charged. It has nothing to do with “user convenience”, a single-tap opt-in post trial would accomplish the same.

I guess the sentiment is, if your product has the value suggested, shouldn’t it be able to earn the purchase on its merits alone?

I’d be super interested if you had any data or anecdotes about how our behavior doesn’t align with how we assume we’d act as well.

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u/uzenik 29d ago

Generally:hard agree. I really dislike people that feel like they have some moral right to content, but not obligation to pay for it.

Devils (well, mine) advocate. I'm one of the dying breed called "i dont have a cc, actually I don't even have a debit since about a year." Its a curious middle ground when I dont feel the need to have cc, and things that might change my mind, wont let me try them, so I still feel no need to have one". Maybe when I (haha, maybe) have enough to get a mortgage or sth else in the future.

Maybe you could answer one question (of its something you know about). Once I tried to get a free trial with subscription at the end (I think it was spotify). There were 2 opinions: cc and PayPal. Yay, I have a PayPal account connected to a bank account. After verification it showed me an error: your PayPal has to be connected to a cc. I honestly felt duped of my time. "You can use a cc, or a cc with extra steps" well f y too, i just stopped using that app (I'm pretty sure it was on fact Spotify.)

Why?

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee 29d ago

I really dislike people that feel like they have some moral right to content, but not obligation to pay for it.

This entire thread is about people opting out of content because it isn't worth providing payment information. So good news: the opinion that you really dislike isn't very common.

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u/Xstream3 May 28 '22

I recently changed my app to use a paid subscription with a free trial aftrr the starting tutorial and the results are waaaay better than the cheap asses who try to reset the app and dance through hoops to try to reset the trial after it expires. Its a one tap built in subscription handled by google so its easy to cancel so I don't understand all the complaining

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u/Mr_660 May 28 '22

Ehh I said it multiple times and I say it again (and again nobody will give any logical counterargumen). Credit card info is the only way for business to ensure users don't exploit free trial. All of u whining bitches cry over not being able to literally steal from business. Business doesn't care about Ur card info. No business can charge u anything without your consent. In case you are geniuely wanna test some service but don't feel comfortable giving Ur main card info you can create virtual cards on service like revolt.

But let's be honest, majority of u guys just wanna abuse free trials and you will never buy the service.

Senior developer and analyst out

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u/qoofp May 28 '22

lmao, mans really upset that people dont wanna get scamned by "free trails"

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u/Mr_660 May 28 '22

Scammed how? You point out being scammed but I never heard about it and never experienced? How the scam works? Or do u call scam being not able to put remind in Ur phone to cancel a service?

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u/qoofp May 28 '22

its usually very easy to sign up for these but a bit of a hassle to cancle them, like you need ro use a browser version and it doesnt really work on the phone and you have to go through 10 steps just to cancle that shit. and yeah it feels like its to make money off from people forgetting it, which is scammy

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u/Mr_660 May 28 '22

Ok point me to one service that does it. I will test it personally. Oftenly there are big red flags that should make u know that this is a scam. But honestly I wanna find any service like u described and try it out because I never found anything like what you're saying. Idk where u find them people

Edit: mind I'm professional and it's also for my job. But honestly I wanna examples cuz I call bullshit.

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u/GodofAeons May 28 '22

DrawnHentai. Couple years ago they were charging me 3x a month. Cancelled on the website and still charged me. Emailed them and nothing, still charged.

Had to call in and the lady couldn't find my account. Then said they have to "process the request" and to email them a different email than what was on the website.

When I asked them to refund the extra months charges they said their agreement I signed states the monthly subscription fee can change at any time to adjust to the quality of content offered.

Absolutely bullshit because even then after emailing that 2nd email they still charged me the following month. I had to do dispute with credit card.

To be fair... It's porn. So my hopes weren't high to begin with.

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u/Mr_660 29d ago

Mate tell me it's not obvious that site like that will try to scam u? Im not saying paying for porn is bad,but just the site looks so terrible is beyond me.

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u/BluebeardHuntsAlone May 28 '22

The adobe subscription. Literally one of the most scummy companies out there for this type of shit.

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u/Mr_660 29d ago

Oh you mean company with top tier products that is 2nd most pirated products on earth? Just after windows?

I'll check that exactly how free trials work to confirm but honestly if even they have some annoying free trial they have every right to. Every professional knows and uses Adobe. Not even professionals know what Adobe has. They don't need to give u any free trial because if u buy their product, most likely you're company and u buy it for Ur workers of Ur freelancer. They are in position where there are very little people that want to try and check out their services. You buy it or not because u know exactly what their product can do.

Again, not a lot thought out here

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

You’re not doing a great job of defending your argument bud. The comments where users are sharing actual instances where cancelling a free trial is intentionally difficult you engage in blaming the user or rationalizing the poor practice by product quality.

I don’t have experience with Adobe but if it’s as the posters claim there’s no good excuse, if there was ever a product offering that could truly win business on the merit of the product it’s Adobe.

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u/Mr_660 29d ago

No mate, I just point out that people with opinion that there should be no cc requirement for free trial never ever think about business. Never. They whine only about their asses and having problem with putting reminder to cancel free trial. I ask for examples where this free trial on legit service is so bad. Adobe is terrible example if that.

I agree that Adobe has a lot of bad practices for normal users but u don't think at all how oftenly Photoshop and other programs have been pirated. They spent a lot of money to make such a program which is best in the world. Them giving u free trial is just insane. They don't need to advertise their services, they don't need to give u free trial. Because they are best. Everybody knows what they products are. Yet still they lose so much money because of piracy it's insane. And it's all just so we get free trial which is backdoor to pirated program.

Adobe is known for bad customer practices but they still somehow stay on top. Just like facebook, they are so big that people are addicted to their services. Everybody know their bad practices, but still use them. And will use them for long time if there is no alternative.

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee 29d ago

Oh you mean company with top tier products that is 2nd most pirated products on earth? Just after windows?

Let me know if you need any help moving that goalpost. Seems heavy.

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u/qoofp May 28 '22

dont know any of the top of my head, but no free trail i ever used had the option to auto cancle after the 14 days

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u/Mr_660 29d ago

Why business should provide u with something like that? If u know Ur not gonna pay for service then way f off u know? Business doesn't care about u. They care about their customers. They spent a lot of money to just give u an option to have a free trial. Why would they spent more on people that know they won't use and pay for their service?

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u/Belamie 29d ago edited 29d ago

I used to work "Retention" for an ISP. It is absolutely a scam. My employer would have me badgering you over the phone for 20+ minutes, when the only thing people should have to say is "This is my account information. I want to cancel it."

If you have to call an 800 number, send an e-mail or file a ticket to cancel instead of having a simple, automated and VISIBLE. cancellation option either in app or on your website. It's a scam.

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u/Shigglyboo 29d ago

Steal? They’re the ones offering the free trial. If it’s free let me use it. If it’s got genuine value then when my subscription runs out I’ll buy the service. I have several monthly services that I pay for. Everyone knows the scam they’re trying to pull. They’re hoping I forget to cancel and pay for a service I don’t really want. So effectively they are trying to steal from me. Amazon music did just that. They said I could have a free trial of the music subscription. Then when it renewed it charge like triple that they had said because I accessed it on both my phone and Alexa and they didn’t mention that the cheaper price was for only the one device. I would have probably kept the service but since they screwed me over I cancelled.

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u/Mr_660 29d ago edited 29d ago

Do you notice that they would screw you over 3 devices anyway? Not requiring cc for free trial wouldn't change that.

I see that it could be that way that they should ask you if you wanna continue subscribtion after free trial ends and still be able to require cc for verification. It would improve user experience. I might start research on that. But regardless of result u have to take into account that company needs to spend money on something that is pure ux and company image improvement. To push that idea to management for feature that doesn't improve income or service quality is really really hard.

Edit: on the other hand, additional question if u wanna to continue a service might not be liked by majority of users. Please mind most of users like that their don't need to additionally confirm after trial. Not a lot of people have negative opinion on this process. A lot of people like how easy it is. Most people that add cc info continue to use service. If they stop trial it's because service didn't need their requirements.

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u/Mr_660 29d ago

Most SAAS companies after changing to require cc info for trial improve their income from at least +10% to even +150% depending on market they target. I've been working in over 200 SAAS project's in past 10 years. Made multiple researches about user experience of free trial requiring cc info. When business doesn't have cc requirement it's not because they don't want to. It's because they don't have budget for it and need to improve their service first.

When people have possibility not to pay, they won't. Average man can easily spent 1h per month to get free acces to service that cost 10$.

Only people that have higher income don't care to spent 1h to save 10$ because their time is worth much more.

Please mind this isn't just my opinion but it's backed up by several analysis Ive been paid for (sorry I can't share them with you). I've met 2 business that didn't want to require cc. In both cases their income improves instantly when adding cc requirement.

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u/DrewSmoothington 29d ago

I honestly can't take anyone seriously when they use "u" and "ur" in such a long block of text, sorry

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u/Mr_660 29d ago

Well that's Ur problem on judging someone based on their habits. Someone's does something that in Ur opinion is sign of eg. stupidity or laziness and undermines their arguments shoeed Ur lack of understanding of humans. Good leaders know that even if someone doesn't have manners or doesn't write how u want deosnt mean they aren't good at something. Best specialists are excellent at one thing and oftenly bad or mediocre on others.

Ok good with math, statistics, programming, soft skills related to my work, analysis etc I'm terrible at anything related to language and need extra time to learn such things.

Ur I just a habit when I was minor using first online chats. You lack of understanding this who's who you are

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u/DrewSmoothington 29d ago

Wow, what a huge block of text I'll never read haha

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u/SheiraSeastar1993 May 28 '22

Shut yo bitch ass up - if you don’t want the trial “exploited” don’t offer misleading “free” trials. Nothing worth having is free in life and if something is free then YOU are the product. Whether we ultimately use the service or not you still gained something from even seeing our names and collecting our data. Bottom feeders.

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u/JohnBeePowel May 28 '22

I'm pretty sure paid products and services collect data ok you and reseller it, making you the customer and the product.

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u/Shigglyboo 29d ago

It’s definitely scammy. If not then why not give me the free month and then the OPTION to pay. Everyone knows they’re hoping you forget and wind up paying for a month of something you don’t really want.

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u/Mr_660 May 28 '22

Oh I see you are an expert here. Look you cheap ass swearing kid, calm the fuck down. The trial is free, 30 days of free use without paying is free. Period. This is a way for business to give a customer an option to try a service. And looking on stats I can easily tell you that your opinion is shared under 10% of people using multiple services I'm helping developing. Recurring payments is great for people that are able and want to pay for service they want. And that's a business target, not Ur cheap crying ass.

Also, about selling data. Majority of companies (small and medium ones) don't sell data but use it to improve their service. Selling data is so FKING hard I don't wanna even explain it. Oh also when u mentioned "seeing our names" I instantly knew that u know completely nothing. All data is anonymous without names. Corpos like Google and FB that make targeted ads for u, they indentify u and get way too much info - that's true. But their services are completely free. And they are the biggest companies in the world.

I say it again, never anybody told me any logical counterargument. It's all whining and crying nonsense that you can't abuse free trials. Whining if people that don't want to pay.

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee 29d ago

All of u whining bitches

Opinion invalid.

Senior developer and analyst out

As a fellow senior software engineer, I assure you that your title doesn't lend any extra credibility to your bad opinion.

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u/lazilyfrequent May 28 '22

cough 10 mins fake email and credit crd info cough

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u/Urban_Savage 29d ago

You lost me at free trial.

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u/Raist2 29d ago

Buy a cheap prepaid credit card at a local store. E.g. 20$.

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u/Hawkedb 29d ago

Does this still work? I've had websites denying those more than once in the past.

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u/Raist2 28d ago

It still does, but it might not be 100% full proof. It could depend on the nature of the sites. They might also do geoblocking.

I used them on gaming free trials. I also use temporary emails. If the game is actually good, I will buy it/subscribe using my real card and email.

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u/Grub-lord 29d ago

Just lol if you're not using virtual credit cards in 2022

You should be using Privacy to generate a temporary credit card for pretty much any online transaction that you either don't want to have to cancel later, or have any uncertainty shit the integrity of the vendor. https://privacy.com/join/FFDKK

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u/polyworfism 29d ago edited 29d ago

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Edit: Looks like a repost. I've seen this image 2 times.

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u/curseKissed 29d ago

netflix... every fucking time when i was a kiddd demnn

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u/Comments331 29d ago

There's a reason for that dingus. If you don't require a credit card people will just abuse the shit out of the free trial and make new accounts every time.

Source : I am people

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u/Jhorn_fight May 28 '22

Old gift card or 10 minute credit card generator but you didn’t hear the last one from me