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How you can help fight disinformation on Reddit

There is a lot of disinformation relating to the Coronavirus pandemic on Reddit, ranging from misconceptions about PPE & the vaccine to unsafe medical advice which could easily cause harm. More than 1500 communities on reddit have called for the admins to take action. There have been numerous articles covering both the open letter and reddit's response. This thread will serve as a place to discuss and link these articles, along with any other examples of covid misinformation on the site.

This thread will also be a place to gather the type of content that we protest against.

Here is an example of dangerous content, that should be reported.

While we do not agree with the reply from admins which framed counterfactual, dangerous propaganda as "just an alternative viewpoint" that reply also provided us with handles on how to move forward within existing content policy.

In his reply, Mr. Huffman told us what redditors may not do to protest, but he also told us what we can do. He explicitly wrote that they will action against communities that violate their rules, including fraud and encouraging harm. Unfortunately, and unacknowledged by /u/spez' response, the disinformation that we are protesting against does exactly that. It encourages harm.

This is where we need your help. If you find comments and threads that violate this rule then report them as disinformation via the link you can find at the bottom of this text. This is not a partisan issue. This pandemic affects us all, and we should all work together to keep people safe and informed during these difficult times.

We will collate everything that all of us together find into a spreadsheet that we will present to admins via a different reporting channel. By working within the rules that reddit laid out for content on this platform we stand the most chance to actually achieve our goal. Convincing people to take actions that are harmful to their health, that may even result in their deaths, has no place on this website.

We look forward to working together with everyone to make reddit a better place.

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u/maybesaydie living organism with tentacles Aug 28 '21 edited Aug 29 '21 Wholesome

In case you missed it:

report antivaxx misinformation to the admins here

Apparently we have to reiterate rule two:

2. Antivaxxers:

We do not owe you a platform. Participate at your own risk

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u/Ok_Plankton248479 Aug 28 '21

But don't reports just go to the admin of the sub, who is also behind or allowing the misinformation? They just ban the reporter from their sub.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '21

Reports that you report through /report go to Reddit admins. We also want you to send links to the comments and posts you find here. Normal reports to Reddit mods are anonymous

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u/Ok_Plankton248479 Aug 28 '21

There is a ton of it on any conservative sub. But it's not exclusive to them.

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u/hat-of-sky Aug 28 '21

I've tried to click the link on several of these posts in various subs and it always goes to Page Not Found.

( Not that I want to report these, I just want to find the place for when I want to report misinformation.)

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u/CressCrowbits Aug 28 '21

I've found that many subs have no report button on comments when you're banned from that sub, even if you turn off style in res.

How on earth can they do this?

I'm on old Reddit if that makes a difference

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u/Merari01 Aug 28 '21

You can still report TOS violating content to site admins at www.reddit.com/report.

The report button only reports to subreddit moderators.

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u/CressCrowbits Aug 28 '21

I could have sworn I've had admin responses to content reports

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u/hughk Aug 29 '21

Unless they have changed the workflow, Reports in a sub go to the mods there. If the mods find it worthwhile, they might report it to the admins. There is a separate workflow from the link above that goes to the admins for TOS or spam issues where the mods don't react.

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u/SuperQue Aug 29 '21

IIRC, the "Breaks r/something rules" reports go to mods. But the harmful stuff like harassment/threats/self-harm go to admins as well.

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u/I_know_right Aug 31 '21

I learned yesterday if you get banned and muted, then click 'block subreddit', the moderators of that reddit can continue to spam you.

https://i.redd.it/5hjbhks08ok71.png

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u/Merari01 Aug 28 '21

If you use the link provided the report goes to site admins as well as to subreddit moderators. But moderators cannot see who reported.

It is important that the report to site admins is made, because it is the first step in their escalation process.

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u/Rolder Aug 28 '21

I’d also add that using the link provided also means bad mods can’t try to get you for abusing the report button. They like to do that on the big ones like NNN and Conspiracy

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u/tiptoe_bites Aug 29 '21

I’d also add that using the link provided also means bad mods can’t try to get you for abusing the report button. They like to do that on the big ones like NNN and Conspiracy

How can bad mods try and get you for a using the report button if mods arent supposed to know who is reporting? If its supposed to be anonymous?

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u/Rolder Aug 29 '21

They cry to the admins that someone is abusing the report button and then admins ban those people. Mods don't know who it is in the end, though.

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u/hysys_whisperer Aug 29 '21

If you're using the sub's report button, that's different than using the report link listed above, and will likely go nowhere in a malicious sub.

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u/wilhelm-cruel Aug 28 '21

So the report button for missinformation isn’t suitable and i need to go and report by hand via the link provided?

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '21

The report button for misinformation only reports to the Moderators of the subreddit. If you use the link, it will be sent to the admins

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u/Vaenyr Aug 31 '21

I'm using the iOS app 99% of the time. Reporting through the link doesn't work there, right? Just want to make sure, maybe I'll have to use the web version more often.

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u/Ok_Plankton248479 Aug 28 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

Ok, good to know. But doesn't it just go to the sub mods? They're not going to delete their own propaganda or stop it in any way

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u/hysys_whisperer Aug 29 '21

The button goes to the sub's mods where they can see your username. The link goes to reddit admin, where the sub mods cannot see your username.

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u/babble_bobble Aug 29 '21

Is the "report" link under a comment between "parent" and "give award" going only to the subreddit mods? I am not sure what you mean by button.

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u/adotmatrix Aug 28 '21 edited Aug 29 '21 Silver

The following is clear cut misinformation and should be treated as such:

  • vaccines are unsafe (used in the context of being unsafe / untested / fake as a blanket term versus for individuals with allergies or pre-existing medical conditions diagnosed by a doctor that prevents them from being vaccinated
  • vaccines have microchips
  • vaccines are a depopulation ploy
  • vaccines are untested
  • ivermectin is a cure or preventative medicine for covid
  • high doses of vitamin D will cure covid
  • ingesting bleach cures COVID-19
  • hydroxychloroquine prevents COVID-19
  • you can get COVID-19 from the vaccine

And many more. It’s not a mater of opinion. Like it or not public safety does precede over many other things.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busters

The WHOs team has put out a helpful guide about COVID-19 misinformation and everyone, including reddit should be adapting this information into how they run their sites, and guess what - if the scientific knowledge is updated then this can be revised. Shocking I know, but none of this needs to be written in stone for it to be a helpful tool in helping everyone globally move forward through the pandemic.

Adding that the CDC also has a good myth busting resource:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/facts.html

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u/marry_me_tina_b Aug 28 '21

I like the info and how it is laid out here, what I wonder is how to get into the nuts and bolts of some of the more ambiguous and often sinister bad faith arguments that get thrown out there. Such as: this is a free speech issue, this is censorship (and any censorship is bad), informed adults will make the right choice if presented with all the information, etc. There are seeds of truth in these arguments but they miss the current context that includes major disinformation campaign efforts designed to muddy the waters, ignore corporate participation and endorsement by presenting “both sides” as equal and legitimate, and the fact that a scary percentage of adults are not capable of separating fact from fiction. As human beings, we are not caught up to addressing the consequences and impacts of social media, the internet, and bias-confirming algorithms. These arguments are often used to scaremonger about censorship and free speech and implore us all to be rational - which sounds reasonable without the context - and often are used to downplay the severity of this type of misinformation (while also ignoring that what you see and hear online IS ALREADY manipulated and spoon fed to you). It would be good to have some quick notes like this article contains about the disease and treatment on some of these arguments because they are just as tiresome to combat.

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u/adotmatrix Aug 28 '21 edited Aug 28 '21

Just a quick thought in response to this -

This article discusses the criminalization of misinformation.

“She notes that France, Germany, Malaysia, Russia, and Singapore have all passed laws against spreading fake news and health disinformation.

In Germany, for example, social media organizations must remove hate speech or fake information within 24 hours or face fines of up to €50m ($60.4m).”

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/should-we-criminalize-covid-19-vaccine-disinformation#The-case-for-criminalization

It also touches upon some of the freedom of speech aspects and arguments, and how places where misinformation is criminalized handle it. There is quite a bit of literature on the topic.

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u/Mobile_Busy Aug 28 '21

So a German user can report reddit to the government for these posts??

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u/mister_damage Aug 29 '21

I don't see why not

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u/marry_me_tina_b Aug 28 '21

Interesting, thanks for sharing, I’ll absolutely check it out

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u/adotmatrix Aug 29 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

A commenter posted asking about Ivermectin but then deleted their comment. In response to the deleted comment:

Ivermectin is used to treat infections in the body that are caused by certain parasites, for example, in conjunction with other medications it may be used to treat scabies. It is an effective antiviral for these purposes. Instead of reading random studies without context, please read the following information: https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

Merck, the original patent holder of ivermectin, has released the following statement :

Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;*

No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;*

A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.*

We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.

If you are unsure where to get reliable COVID-19 information please refer to this post for resources such as ones by the CDC, European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, Science Media Centre, John Hopkins Coronavirus Resources Centre and others: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/pbo8yv/misinformation_is_bad_good_information_is_good/

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u/Abandonsmint Aug 29 '21

• vaccines cause autism

Would also be a good bullet point here

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u/Necessary_Rent Aug 29 '21

And just like with vaccines cause autism, the major study in favor of ivermectin is also a fraud.

Huge study supporting ivermectin as Covid treatment withdrawn over ethical concerns

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u/SrslyNotAnAltGuys Aug 30 '21

Bizarre that they brag about how safe Ivermectin is.

I mean, compared to hydroxychloroquine, maybe. But ya know what else is safer than most over-the-counter medications? The freaking COVID vaccine!

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u/chaosgoblyn Aug 30 '21

Vitamin D is not a cure BUT there are indications that making sure you're not deficient (which a lot of people are) greatly improves your chances. Don't megadose but personally I started taking a vitamin D gummy daily.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/lifestyle/other/vitamin-d-lessens-the-risks-of-contracting-covid-19-new-study/ar-AANU8Kw

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u/WriterWillis Aug 29 '21

So by their logic, it is perfectly okay & my right to advise people to drink drano to cure covid, to feed their kids oleander to prevent infection. I could tell people that staring at the sun will bring their sense of smell & taste back, that sniffing glue will help them gain the brain mass they lost after their bout with covid. I could even recommend that they drink sewer water to build up their immune system. All that bullshit I can spew and if someone dies because they followed that insane advice, oh well. Well, they might as well let people post bomb making instructions, 3D print instructions on how to build yourself an untraceable gun, steps on how to make a biological weapon. I mean come on. When it hurts people for real, kills people, that kind of info must be stopped. They can't act like this is just a difference of opinion. It's not. It's dangerous info that is hurting people.

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u/Longjumping-Boot-379 Aug 29 '21

I'm with you! 🤛

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u/Gloomy-Ad1171 Aug 30 '21

This is already popular among those people

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement

Note: this is poison. DO NOT ingest.

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u/Blackjack-Sass Aug 28 '21

Is there a way we can hit the CEO where it hurts? These awards, that helps pay for him, right? Maybe we should stop purchasing awards til he agrees to stop the spread of covid-19 misinformation?

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u/jcpb Triple-derna jannie Aug 29 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

Is there a way we can hit the CEO where it hurts?

Remember how, after Oregon Republicans fled the state to avoid voting on a climate change-related legislation, and The_Donald users publicly voiced threats against any LEO trying to apprehend them, thus landing Reddit in the national news?

Remember how, after the January 6 Capitol Insurrection, Tammy Duckworth name-shamed Reddit on the Senate floor?

These two instances led to Reddit Inc scrambling into damage control in less than 24 hours.

Shining the national media spotlight against Reddit Inc is the one true way to bring the Hurt Locker onto CEO Steve Huffman. Boycotting Reddit Gold/Silver will not work.

edit: accidentally one letter on senator's name, fixed

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21

Also contacting advertisers, preferably on their social media platforms where it's public. Most of them won't want to be associated with anti-vax batshittery.

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u/Blackjack-Sass Aug 29 '21

I meant more just not giving them any money, but I see what you're saying here

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u/urbanmechenjoyer Aug 29 '21

Don’t buy Reddit awards or worst case scenario mass boycott of Reddit to hit their ad revenue.

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u/Chokoreito Aug 29 '21

Vote this with your wallets!

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '21

Thank you to this community for putting in so much effort into combating disinformation here. After over a year of seeing this pandemic unfold, so easy to become apathetic, and feel like no one cares.

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u/ani625 Aug 28 '21 edited Aug 28 '21

This is where we need your help. If you find comments and threads that violate this rule then report them as disinformation

Yes, thank you! Legit reports to the admins matter a lot.

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u/MissMagoo31 Aug 29 '21 Wholesome Hugz

Thank you for what you're doing. I work in a Covid clinic and all this misinformation and stupidity is making work harder and I can't imagine what those working in hospitals are going through.

So may I please add to your information on what I've seen and experienced this last year and a half.

I was forced to leave work in March of 2020 due to my heart condition and my employer unsure of what this virus was capable of. I spent until June of 2020 unable to leave my home. I live next to my mother who works at the same clinic I do. I learned a few weeks after I left every medical facility but the hospital and us had closed in the county. No one was Covid testing and it was urgently needed. Being the amazing guy he is my employer told our local heath department if they could get us supplies we would take care of that need. He, my mom and one other coworker were working 6 days a week for three months as those needing to be seen and tested never ended.

I reached a breaking point and decided if I'm going to die of Covid I'd rather be contributing to my community then not doing anything. I went back to work. When I left we were a simple urgent care seeing at the most 50 a day. In July of 2020 the average was 112 patients a day with nearly 800 phone calls to answer. We were overwhelmed but couldn't bring ourselves not to do this as we knew no one else was.

I've never been treated so horribly in my life. I got spit at, death threats, pushed, called every name in the book. It was normal for someone to walk away because they needed to cry for a moment. Still, none of us could leave because of those that truly needed us. Like the man I held weeping who needed a rapid antigen test to retrieve his daughters body. She survived Covid but a few days later died of blood clots in her legs. Or the man I begged not to kill himself as he had lost everything due to this pandemic including his family. The dozens of phone calls of people who were Covid positive crying because they were afraid to die. They were and are the reason we never left and still are testing.

I don't know when this will end. All I know is this world is lacking a lot right now and I think the biggest thing it's without is consideration for others. I'm vaccinated and in no way regret it. I got it the moment I could. I want my little brother to get a normal world back and how else can I do that but by doing my part. Someday soon my luck may run out and working at a Covid clinic will catch up to me. I know my health problems put me at a higher risk, but I'm willing to take that chance. As long as I'm helping people it's all worth it. Please, everyone, stay safe and remember that your decisions don't only affect you, but everyone else as well.

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u/technicalitrees Aug 29 '21

I don’t think anything I say will be enough to show how thankful I am for what you do. But from the bottom of my heart, thank you so, so much.

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u/Longjumping-Boot-379 Aug 29 '21

Thank you for this comment. It was heartfelt and empowering! Most importantly, I want to thank you for your service. Thank you! Thank you, from the bottom of my heart and, from the tip of my, tippy toed, soul! May you and those beside you, be protected on this selfless journey of sacrifice and service. May your lights, lead the way... Loving Your Shine!! Always Blessings -April

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u/HatRatKarazim Aug 30 '21

Today I learned that heroes don't wear capes. But a few of them, like you, have reddit accounts.

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u/SrslyNotAnAltGuys Aug 30 '21

Thank you for enduring and doing such a thankless job. Wish I could give you a hug. You're good people.

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u/insideout_learning Aug 31 '21

@MissMagoo31. You deserve to be uplifted for the work you are doing.

Thank you so much for sharing your story. The first word that comes to mind, which best describes my reaction to your awesomeness is “HERO!”

I can’t imagine what you have experienced though this expression of courage and commitment to human health. You are the true hero who is literally on the front line helping others, at the expense of your own health.

I wish you well and ask that you remember to take good care of YOU as much as you are taking care of others.

Thank you again for sharing your story.

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u/DragonTHC Aug 28 '21

So, can you report an entire sub for misinformation?

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '21

Yes.

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u/lostarchitect Aug 28 '21

How? I've tried to do that but there doesn't seem to be a mechanism.

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u/Merari01 Aug 28 '21

Report a particularly bad comment, like the example we posted in the body of text in this thread.

In the custom box explain that it is the entire subreddit that is the problem, not just this one comment.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '21

Should we make a form report thingy, like copy and paste why it is misinformation? Like same sources every report but in different comments or put a little spin on them?

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u/Merari01 Aug 28 '21

It helps to keep your explanations short and to the point.

Best to only report the really bad stuff, of the kind Huffman said was out of bounds.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '21

Noted, thanks for the advice.

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u/DuskyDay Aug 29 '21

You can PM r/reddit.com.

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u/lostarchitect Aug 29 '21

I tried that and got a reply that they were no longer accepting reports that way.

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u/DuskyDay Aug 29 '21

Oh, I see, sorry, they already made it obsolete. In that case, try https://www.reddit.com/report -> "I want to report spam or abuse" -> "This is misinformation."

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u/lostarchitect Aug 29 '21

Yeah, that's what I do, but it's for comments or posts, not entire subs.

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u/DuskyDay Aug 29 '21

So, you can either try to use it for the entire sub (even if it says "link to comment/post/PM"), or you can report a particular post, and write in the comment that the entire sub is like that (and add screenshots).

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u/mrobertj42 Aug 29 '21

My recommendation would be radical transparency of data and complete open debate of all scientists.

Instead of posting CNN articles, post peer reviewed research papers. Link to NIH and CDC data and charts. News opinions don’t mean anything.

By not letting the scientific community hash out differing opinions and theories, we are feeding the conspiracy theories. Let the best and brightest minds fight it out until we have agreement.

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u/SrslyNotAnAltGuys Aug 30 '21

The only people who this would affect are those who go digging through the literature to cherry-pick out-of-context nonsense anyway. They've tried the "radical transparency" thing with climate science. People with an axe to grind who know nothing about statistical analysis go through and pull out conclusions that are diametrically opposed to those of the scientists who know what the f*ck they're doing.

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u/mrobertj42 Aug 30 '21

Interesting. Couldn’t that be done both ways though?

If you don’t tolerate dissenting views, how strong is your foundation?

In fact, the ‘hydroxycloriquine is deadly’ paper turned out to be wrong. After peer review it was rescinded because they used something like 500x the safe dosage to show it cause heart problems (pulling from memory and could be off). However, Democrats jumped all over it. Everybody does it though.

Most folks don’t know anything about statistics, I agree with you. Which is why it’s so easy to manipulate people by using shoddy research and data.

Ultimately, the news is not here to educate the masses, they are an advertising agency that is trying to capture viewer time and make money. They are a business.

Just like biotech firms are not in business to prevent you from getting sick, they are in business to make you better once you are sick.

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u/SrslyNotAnAltGuys Aug 30 '21

Interesting. Couldn’t that be done both ways though?

Sure it could. Doesn't make it less of a problem.

If you don’t tolerate dissenting views, how strong is your foundation?

Because it's not debate club we're talking about, here. People are using arguments founded on nonsense to advocate taking steps that are killing people.

In fact, the ‘hydroxycloriquine is deadly’ paper turned out to be wrong. After peer review it was rescinded because they used something like 500x the safe dosage to show it cause heart problems

So? Taking hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 isn't stupid because it's deadly, it's stupid because it doesn't work (and it can have nasty side effects even when administered properly, and drinking fish-tank cleaner is not 'administered properly.')

No method or system is correct 100% of the time, but what I'm seeing is people pointing at a rescinded study or faulty publication and going "See? Science is useless. I'm going to listen to this rando snake-oil salesman on Facebook instead, he seems legit."

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u/aabum Aug 29 '21 edited Sep 21 '21 Gold All-Seeing Upvote

You expressed my feelings much more clearly than I am able to. Thank you for your post. I think an unaddressed aspect to the vaccine debate is there are several people, myself included, who have never received a flu vaccine. I'm in my mid-fifties and I've had the flu maybe three times in my life.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I've had hepatitis b vaccine and the booster due to my titers being low. More recently I've had I believe it was a hepatitis c vaccine and a vaccine for pneumonia, both of these due to my age and my being immunocompromised. All the vaccines I've taken have been around for a while and have an established record of being safe.

That said I feel that cancel culture is trying to negate my ability to express concern about vaccines that were rushed into production, and are being used under emergency whatever order. Though I know Pfizer had their vaccine recently approved. Is it wrong for an individual to not want to be bullied into putting such a product in their body?

Allowing scientists to debate these topics openly would help people such as myself gain greater insight into the facts related to both the virus and the vaccine. As it is I feel that much of what I read regarding both is propaganda, either from cancel culture or from anti-vaxxers. The truth always lies somewhere in the middle. All I want to know is the truth.

After watching C-SPAN and seeing Rand Paul, who I'm not a big fanboy of, grill Dr. Fauci about gain of function research and how it relates to the Sars-Cov2 virus, I have further concerns. Expressing these concerns and searching for factual information ends up with those in cancel culture labeling me a conspiracy theorist and an anti-vaxxer. This doesn't further the conversation and makes me more inclined to not believe anything spouted by the cancel culture folks. I already don't believe much of what the anti-vaxxers have to say. Why is simply wanting objective fact finding so wrong?

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u/EssPeeEeEnSeaEeAre Aug 29 '21

searching for factual information

Factual information (i.e. peer-reviewed scientific publications) is on the side of the vaccine. Benefits way outweigh the risks. Disseminating these findings, and making them accessible and understandable to the broad audience, is important and I agree more useful that news opinion but news opinion are not bad if they contributes to disseminate important findings.

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u/Riverrat423 Aug 28 '21

I figure most Redditors have a healthy sense of skepticism, plus we like calling bullshit on others. Still it’s good we can report dangerous disinformation.

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u/vaskguy13 Aug 28 '21

well maybe the ones here but not the ones that are in the subs where this is being spread

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u/Riverrat423 Aug 28 '21

Yeah, I suppose that makes it tricky. I don’t follow many of those echo chamber political subs.

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u/Vitztlampaehecatl It's literally intermediate biology Aug 28 '21

Capital-R Redditors aren't the only people who use reddit anymore. The site has broadened a lot since 2013ish.

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u/needtechsupportalot Aug 30 '21

entitledparents is a great example

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u/Sieffre79 Aug 29 '21

Thanks for fighting the good fight.

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u/TheBananaKing Aug 29 '21

Might it be time to start tweeting at companies that advertise on reddit?

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u/BlankVerse Aug 29 '21

As a mod, it seems like the spreading of COVID-19 misinformation has gotten worse in the last few weeks. :(

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u/olixius Aug 28 '21

r/vegas and r/vegaslocals has had a problem with antivaxxers and antimaskers since the pandemic began. People like me have consistently been trying to fight these people who are spreading misinformation and propaganda. People have been calling on the sub admins to do something, like ban the people, but they don't.

I have now started transcribing the local school board meetings, posting the ridiculous shit these people are saying, the threats they are making, and the school board response.

Sometimes I feel so helpless. These people get so mad that they dox me, threaten me with veiled threats of violence, and they seem to multiply faster than the pro-vax supporters. I follow the nursing subs and read how they are all about to quit because these people cough in their faces, yell obscenities at them while they die, and they have to watch as the people who actually did the right thing are forced to die alone.

I am fucking tired of these people. Propaganda and misinformation are not "alternative viewpoints". They are deliberate lies aimed at vulnerable people who lack the economic and academic privilege to be critical thinkers. They are mislead by rich despots WHO ARE VACCINATED but tell them that the vaccine will kill them. What we are experiencing right now is quite literally the largest and most effective propaganda campaign in human history.

And while I was threatened for saying this before, I will say it again: WE NEED DEPROGRAMMING ON A NATIONAL SCALE. We are fighting a cult, and it should be treated like a cult. You cannot save a cult member just by presenting them with facts and data. They need lengthy psychological intervention.

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u/[deleted] Aug 29 '21 edited Aug 29 '21

Hello friend ! 🙋‍♀️

People have been calling on the sub admins to do something, like ban the people, but they don't.

The mods seem to believe the misinformation themselves. At least one mod puts out dubious (at best!) covid stats on her Facebook and in the sub itself ostensibly compiled from the Southern Nevada Health District. Thing is she's been called out at least twice for errors in her "compiled" stats. Furthermore the same mod has stated in the sub that stats published and compiled from The WaPo and NYT (directly from John Hopkins data) are biased somehow because those papers have "agendas".

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u/kittykrunk Aug 28 '21

Absolutely agree with you on deprogramming.

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u/mschuster91 Aug 28 '21

They need lengthy psychological intervention.

You'd need to put half the US into, essentially, a Gulag for that to work. And you'd need to close down Fox "News", Newsmax, OAN, Sinclair and a couple other media outlets.

Neither of this is gonna happen, unfortunately. The US is heading for really dark times.

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u/olixius Aug 29 '21

You don't need a Gulag. You need mental health and academic outreach.

And yeah, all those media sites you mentioned should be shut down.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

We need Terminator robots lol

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u/2x4_Turd Aug 28 '21

Can we just stage a strike? Post for a few days about not commenting or making posts on anywhere you frequent on a certain day. Not everyone will do it but alot will. And the media will talk about it.

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u/This-Moment Aug 29 '21

Good idea. I would participate, but I may not see it. I'm frankly just done with this place. This isn't a freedom of speech issue, it's that Reddit (the company) chooses not to moderate itself to the minimum acceptable standard.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '21

Wait, did they also mention anything about if we can blackout protest against the misinfomation? Cause after rereading it, it seems like they will punish you guys and others. Though I am skeptical on their part (the admins) and it will be likely be all talk no action.

Still, is the blackout still good to go or reporting just more effective then a reddit blackout?

I am confused.

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u/Inflameable009 Aug 29 '21

I'm so tired of of those weird anti's spewing "muh freedom". If you spew bullshit that can potentially harm people or even in the worst case, kill them.... Sorry you should be silenced from ever a say in anything for you cannot think on your own and agree with the first best thing YOU agree with. Fuck you

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u/LibraryLass Aug 29 '21

OR we could just blackout.

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u/needtechsupportalot Aug 30 '21

whats the diffrence between admin and mod

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u/OurOnlyWayForward Aug 30 '21

Mods are just unpaid volunteers that manage individual (or multiple) subreddits. Their mod powers only exist in those subs.

Admins are paid employees of Reddit that have far more power as you’d expect. They run the website as a whole

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u/LibraryLass Aug 30 '21

Bullshit. They'll cave, especially if it gets mainstream attention.

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u/alzakarr Aug 28 '21

Honestly I feel spreading covid and vaccine misinformation should carry a negligent homicide charge.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '21

"Do not vote, comment, or subscribe to these subreddits.Do not "friend" or "follow" users on these subreddits.Do not participate in these subreddits including posting or commenting.Do not target individual users. Do not include username pings, usernames, link to profile pages, or single out individual users."

Does this include crossposting to anti-NNN subreddits?

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u/maybesaydie living organism with tentacles Aug 28 '21

Feel free to crosspost this.

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u/Sokapi84 Aug 29 '21

If someone was trying to self harm, they would provide help and immediately take action.

But people try to take horse drugs and spread the idea it is safe and nothing happens. So disappointing.

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u/Aserityng Proud Pro-Vaxxer Aug 30 '21

Can we save reddit? Or is it long gone?

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u/FloTonix Aug 30 '21

Well, since Reddit themselves said fuck it... shit just got worse... suddenly seeing a shit ton of new bots DM ing hate and vitriol along with their covid misinformation to anyone who comments on the topic....

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u/Shadowblues Aug 30 '21

Why not just ban the conservative reddit that's causing the misinformation and other subreddits?

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u/hearsecloth Aug 28 '21

Thank you for spearheading this

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u/CriticalFallacy Aug 28 '21

Commenting for the algorithm.

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u/Premyy_M Aug 29 '21

So basically don't participate or interact in anyway besides reporting? What about downvotes?

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u/warr-den Aug 31 '21

Downvotes let them claim that content is being manipulated

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u/maybesaydie living organism with tentacles Aug 31 '21

you're always free to downvote.

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u/ThatOneGuyonTV Aug 28 '21

I got one...us crowsource the money to buy Spez' shares from underneath him.

Someone from WSB can Pimp this Ride.

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u/Ratmatazz Aug 29 '21

Amazing Job. I am happy to see this gain traction! Hopefully the disinformation crowd will continue shrinking and eventually be an example to learn from!

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u/mytlemorze Aug 30 '21

one man singlehandedly fights misinformation thank you u/Malachi_Noel3

how do i give awards herre?

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u/_ell0lle_ Aug 30 '21

sheeptogetherstrong

Get the vax.

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u/redbeardoweirdo Aug 31 '21

I cannot post but can I still comment? This is a test.

Edit: huzzah

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u/Remm1ngton Aug 29 '21

I posted a user and a subreddit the other day and no action was taken. I can see this user is still spreading covid misinformation.

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u/incog99886 Aug 30 '21 edited Aug 30 '21

The single worst piece of guidance is "If you're vaccinated, feel free to take off your mask". I work in a place that has near 99% vaccination rate and allows the vaccinated to go massless. Just today we get an email from HR saying masks are coming back for everyone because there is an outbreak... So someone who got vaccinated and wasn't wearing a mask, got covid and proceeded to spread it to everyone around him...I just don't understand why people think the vaccine prevents transmission in any way. Is that the misinformation that were trying to fight? Because its literally everywhere...even coming from the Biden administration...

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u/Rapseht Aug 31 '21

It’s because it does reduce transmission rates. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/keythingstoknow.html

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u/Rapseht Aug 31 '21

Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article.

*Effectiveness

What we know

COVID-19 vaccines are effective at protecting you from COVID-19, especially severe illness and death. COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of people spreading the virus that causes COVID-19. If you are fully vaccinated, you can resume activities that you did before the pandemic. Learn more about what you can do when you have been fully vaccinated.*

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u/Doodle-boi-v2 Aug 30 '21

Wouldn’t banning them just give them justification for their crazy beliefs? Just explain to them why they’re wrong instead of banning them.

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u/Redditloser147 Aug 30 '21

Anything and everything justifies their crazy beliefs. Delusional people aren’t willing to listen to reason or logic.

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u/GlossyEyed Aug 30 '21

Can we also report media misinformation?

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u/robmason1972 Aug 29 '21

This is a true statement

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